Author Topic: Alcohol??? (Read 7761 times)

shawn300 · « **on:** May 04, 2003, 07:32:38 PM »

Is it ABC legal to use alcohol on your ball during league play? If you keep the ball as clean as possible every time it goes down the lane, it will help the ball reaction. I avg 215 with an old blue pearl hammer. Make good shots and earn your strikes, throw urethane!!

bowlin gr8 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 06, 2003, 12:37:23 PM »

Thanks for the info, Steven.
--------------------
Who says bowling isn't a blood sport?

Bjaardker · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2003, 12:49:55 PM »

quote:
I cannot imagine the Neo-Tac Hook-it MSDS containing any warnings regarding human saftey. If it did, they would be in for such a mega-lawsuit, based on the recent past history of corporations being sued for denying similar knowledge to consumers, that Neo-Tac would be driven out of business very quickly.

If you're worried about Hook-it, think acetone. Acetone has been proven to be not harmful to humans yet it dissolves the plastic that is the basic component of all bowling balls.

Of course, if Neo-Tac's lawyers have not yet warned them of such ....

Right, but Acetone doesn't stay smelling on my hands for 2 days & 6 hand washings afterwards.

I wouldn't expect them to have any serious warnings, but I'm sure there are some.

It's more of a curiosity thing.

Strider · « **Reply #18 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:15:30 PM »

I would imagine that Hook-It's MSDS would look like they created the plague. Most MSDS are CYA (cover your...) propaganda used to keep from being sued. That way, if you don't wear your level A suit when handling it, it's your fault.
--------------------
Strider
Penn State Proud
Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say.

Bjaardker · « **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:23:51 PM »

Just got off the phone with Neo-tac, they are sending out the MSDS tomorrow.

We'll find out.

Strider · « **Reply #20 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:34:40 PM »

Even common solvents have some pretty stern warnings when it comes to respiratory, ingestion, and corrosivity. If I remember, sugar and salt look very dangerous when looking at the MSDS. I'd be happy to fax copies of anything you can think of.
--------------------
Strider
Penn State Proud
Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say.

charlest · « **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:45:14 PM »

quote:
Just got off the phone with Neo-tac, they are sending out the MSDS tomorrow.

We'll find out.

Did they say it was OK to make it public? I'd have to assume an MSDS is for THE PUBLIC! If you feel OK doing it, please tpye as much as you can, as is meaningful. THANKS!

charlest · « **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:47:50 PM »

quote:
quote:
I cannot imagine the Neo-Tac Hook-it MSDS containing any warnings regarding human saftey. If it did, they would be in for such a mega-lawsuit, based on the recent past history of corporations being sued for denying similar knowledge to consumers, that Neo-Tac would be driven out of business very quickly.

If you're worried about Hook-it, think acetone. Acetone has been proven to be not harmful to humans yet it dissolves the plastic that is the basic component of all bowling balls.

Of course, if Neo-Tac's lawyers have not yet warned them of such ....

Right, but Acetone doesn't stay smelling on my hands for 2 days & 6 hand washings afterwards.

I wouldn't expect them to have any serious warnings, but I'm sure there are some.

It's more of a curiosity thing.

Use whatever industrial strength hand cleaner (like automotive, Lava, Lye soap) you can. If the smell is there, the chemical is there. It shouldn't be. I use strong dishwasher soap when I use Hook-It plus a vinyl glove and Thick paper towels. BUT get it off your hands! Heck, use 409 or SImple Green on your hands if necessary.

Steven · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:57:32 PM »

The stuff (Hook-It) is nasty when it gets on your hand and eats away at your skin, but it works.

The things we go through to keep the cover clean....

Bjaardker · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2003, 04:02:08 PM »

quote:
Did they say it was OK to make it public? I'd have to assume an MSDS is for THE PUBLIC! If you feel OK doing it, please tpye as much as you can, as is meaningful. THANKS!

I certainly will let you all know the info I get. Manufacturers are required by law to provide MSDS for any chemicals that may be used by the public. Personally i'm suprised that one of the pro shop owners on here hasn't chimed in with their copy of the MSDS on this stuff.

My Dad has been an arborist for 27 years & we had our own business for a while. I remember reading some of the MSDS' on some of the tree chemicals & fertilizers they used. Very dry, but sometimes interesting reading.

Will let you all know the outcome.

Bjaardker · « **Reply #25 on:** May 06, 2003, 04:05:30 PM »

quote:
Use whatever industrial strength hand cleaner (like automotive, Lava, Lye soap) you can. If the smell is there, the chemical is there. It shouldn't be. I use strong dishwasher soap when I use Hook-It plus a vinyl glove and Thick paper towels. BUT get it off your hands! Heck, use 409 or SImple Green on your hands if necessary.

I've used both my grandmothers homemade lye soap, lava, & 409, none of them got rid of the smell completely. That what got me to wondering what was in it. I was thinking either this is incredibly nasty stuff, or they put an awful lot of fragrence into a very simple compound to make people think it's really nasty. I dont apply it without a glove on anymore.

da Shiv · « **Reply #26 on:** May 06, 2003, 04:05:36 PM »

Bjaardker--
I look forward to your report on the MSDS. Neotac stopped replying to my emails when I started nosing around about Hook-It. As Strider said, I can already imagine all the horrors contained in the report. It'll probably end up sounding like we'd be safer cleaning our bowling balls with plutonium. I look forward to many fifteen syllable words.

Shiv

P.S. I'm a building engineer and I have a whole binder full of MSDS at work. It's a wonder any of us survived childhood...and we used to ride bicycles without helmets, too.

Edited on 5/6/2003 4:14 PM

dicnic · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2003, 04:40:58 PM »

I've used HookIt for years without gloves, washing my hands with Lava afterwards. I actually like the smell and it has not affected my hands at all. Or at least, not that I can see. Doesn't everybody have green fingernails, bumps on their fingers and scabs all over their hands? HA!

--------------------
What's with the Braille on a drive-up-ATM?
Never under any circumstances take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 07, 2003, 08:42:22 PM »

While we are waiting for Bjaardker to get the info from NeoTac, I tried looking for them at some MSDS websites without luck. Just in case anyone else ever needs an MSDS, here are some websites for your reference:

http://www.msdssearch.com/

http://www.ilpi.com/msds/#Misc

http://www.chemquik.com/site/cq/freecq.asp

http://www.msdssolutions.com/en/index.asp

Author Topic: Alcohol??? (Read 7761 times)

shawn300

Alcohol???

bowlin gr8

Re: Alcohol???

Bjaardker

Re: Alcohol???

Strider

Re: Alcohol???

Bjaardker

Re: Alcohol???

Strider

Re: Alcohol???

charlest

Re: Alcohol???

charlest

Re: Alcohol???

Steven

Re: Alcohol???

Bjaardker

Re: Alcohol???

Bjaardker

Re: Alcohol???

da Shiv

Re: Alcohol???

dicnic

Re: Alcohol???

MI 2 AZ

Re: Alcohol???