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BigHorhn

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All particle arsenal
« on: June 01, 2005, 05:15:51 AM »
Anybody have an all particle arsenal? I've been thinking about putting one together for a while now. How do you have your arsenal set up? How do you have the cover and how do you have them drilled (bowlingballs)? Anybody have any ideas how they would set theres up if they wanted one? I hear Brunswick makes the best particle balls, does anyone have a preference as to what ball company they would use to put it together? Please include particle pearl to. I know there are some old school strokers who have one. Thanks

 

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2005, 02:25:18 PM »
Any particular reason you want all particle?
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 02:41:16 PM »
because particle ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 03:11:05 PM »
Talk to clintdaley in the Track forum.

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 03:17:47 PM »
Actually V2 dry is particle if i believe
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 03:23:51 PM »
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Actually V2 dry is particle if i believe
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Pearlized Big Bang partice resin polished with Powerhouse Facory Finish Polish

and from what ive seen, its pretty nice on the dry stuff
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2005, 03:45:31 PM »
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and from what ive seen, its pretty nice on the dry stuff


Excellent, actually, but it's pretty hard to get your hands on an undrilled one nowadays, especially at 15lbs.
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 04:27:04 PM »
for a while my arsenal was all particle. I had the Sharp blade, Saw blade, Throttle Up and The Deal. And for all of you out there, the Hammer Deal is particle pearl, and it is usless on anything but dry lanes, or really dry backends. So its considered a light oil ball. O and the all particle line up that i had did very well for me, and right now even though i have a few resins, i mostly use my particles.
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BigHorhn

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2005, 11:48:45 AM »
The reason for all particle is that I like the control and hit. I have had success with reactives but the most success with particle. I will look into the v2 dry because that is the only major concern is getting a particle ball for dry lanes. I was also thinking of a power groove proactive plum for dry.
I have amf triumph for medium but its a little to strong to be a benchmark ball. Would the saw blade or sling blade fit in between the v2dry/plum and the
Triumph? Anymore suggestions? Thanks guys.

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2005, 11:53:34 AM »
Slingblade is reactive pearl and relatively strong on the back end but dumb hammer is discontinuing it because the piece of $h!t switch blade is taking its spot.
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2005, 11:58:29 AM »
Maybe at your home centre on THS you may be fine with ALL particle.  But once you start bowling tournaments in a few different centres, patterns and surfaces it would be in your best interest to carry at least resin.  As smooth and hard hitting as a particle is, particle equipment cannot project as far down the lane and make as sharp of a turn to the pocket as a resin.  So to combat dry lanes from inside angles I suggest at least 1 reactive.  Even if you use it just once, having one night with an honour score may just make it all worth it!
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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2005, 12:03:05 PM »
Well, here it goes. I currently have 3 GP2s and plan on adding 3-5 more GP2s to this arsenal. I already have #1 with pin under ring, cg in palm, mass bias left of thumb, factory surface, #2 same drill as #1 but hit with lots of Magic Shine, #3 is drilled pin under ring, cg toward PAP, mass bias on VAL, factory surface-my true oil ball. I am adding these:#1 pin above ring, cg in palm, mass bias left of thumb, factory surface, #2 same drill as #1, but polished (these drills will help get the ball further down the lane and morebackend to help with my little axis tilt) #3 will be pin on midline below fingers, cg swung out toward my PAP, mass bias in between #2 and #3 on the Track drill sheets, factory surface, #4 will be the same as #3 but polished, #5 will be pin by my PAP, cg toward my grip and mass bias ending around my thumb, I will try the factory surface before making any changes.


I feel with my speed, axis tilt, versatility of my game and of the GP2, I can go anywhere and hit what I need with this arsenal. I truly think I can do it with only 6, but I am really looking at 8 just to cover a few more things I have seen that I liked. I spent 2 hours Tuesday night with Excaliber in his shop and we discussed tons of things, and he showed me one of his GP2s he drilled like #5 I will be drilling, that is where I got that idea. Some wil say no way, some will say I am crazy, my wife will kill me, but I think it will work for 95% of what I see in my area. The other 5%, in my opinion(total bone dry) plastic is best, so I am not worried.

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BigHorhn

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2005, 01:47:07 PM »
I understand what you're saying Lazolio. I don't have any 300's but I do have two 299 games both with reactive. I just think that if you have some head oil and not much, you can cover most conditions from light medium to heavy with particle. Its about preference I guess. I do have reactives to cover conditons when it gets dry, I was just looking for a different option in particle to cover dry to light conditons even when there isn't any oil to get a particle ball started. I like Clintdaley's idea but I don't know enough about different drills and cover changes. I know it seems to be against the norm. I wish I had a knowledgeable ball driller who would work with me in this endeavor. I'll throw it at my ball driller and hope he doesn't laugh. Thank guys

BigHorhn

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2005, 02:04:01 PM »
That sounds good Bob Hanson, how do you have your Ultimate drilled to cover that condition and would a original inferno handle that as well? Thanks.

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Re: All particle arsenal
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2005, 02:23:21 PM »
I agree resins would probably cover more than particles, however, more than just surface is at question here. For me, with my high speed and little tilt, resins do not want to react in oil, and overreact in dry. Most pearls do the same. What I have found with the GP2 is something different than most particles on the market. Because the core does have a higher Rg than most other balls (2.57) that will help it get through the heads better than most particles. The cover is strong enough out of box to handle lots of oil, but yet, is versatile enough to take a cover change very well. The core also is versatile and can be drilled to go long, although not what the ball is intended for. Combining all of these factors is where I have got the notion I can have an arsenal of all GP2s. I have yet to find a reactive cover to handle the amount of oil the GP2 can. In my area, we are faced with oilier conditions more often than dry, plus when you combine the tile and speed issue for me, you see why I pick a particle, especially the GP2.

However, if you have tons of hand or tilt, someone more than likely could and can fill an entire arsenal on a resin ball. Their hand and tilt would work in oil and other drills to handle dry, such as the original Rule. The only problem I see is the lower Rg, which makes the ball want to start earlier. When the heads start to go, it will effect the lower Rg more than a higher Rg ball (naturally).

Just my 2 cents, explaining my view and why I am going to do this for my arsenal next year. I will have other balls, like the 5.0, original X, etc, but for the main part, I am going to stick with the GP2s and report my results.
Sort of a test as well for myself.

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