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numnum

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Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« on: January 17, 2011, 06:40:13 AM »
Hi, just wondering as can't get my mojo back. My average has slipped over last 5 months, can't stand it anymore.. I bowl in 2 social leagues, but wondering if I shoud look into the "serious and high end" leagues??

 

Ave 205 and rising, well it use to be !!! Now heading towards 190...Social leagues are slow, and not competitive whatsoever, which is fine. Perhaps I need a kick up the bum here..

 

Basically in league bowling, how have your experiences been with serious leagues where the stronger bowlers bowl? Has your game improved, and if so, which parts?? I would love to hear about your experiences.

 

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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »
High end leagues help me quite a bit.  I bowl a social league with my wife and friends, and up until this year would average 10-15 pins lower in that league compared to my "money" league (last year 226 on Sunday and 214 with my wife, it was also a different house).  My wife would always ask to come and watch and I'd tell her it's my "focus" league.  I have 6 300's and all have come in my competitive leagues.  Give it a shot with a tougher league, hopefully you will rise to the level of your competition, but just don't get discouraged!


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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 07:02:21 AM »
Basically i think concentration is the difference. In the high end league people are more focused on executing shots. People tend to bowl up to the competition around them. I know that in years past when i bowled social mixed leagues with my wife i would use that league as a "practice session". I would throw ball and lines that may not have been the "correct" one to use but what i wanted to work on or try out

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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 01:42:16 PM »
I wonder whether the old adage is correct, as it is with most things.. You know the "you play better when faced with better players", does this ring true with bowling also...

 

 
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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 01:48:00 PM »
I too average 10-15 pins less in  my "social" league---but there is a reason for this.  I purposely joined a social league this year so I can have a league that I can experiment with things my coach tells me and also I use it to test out new equipment.


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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 12:29:11 AM »

 



stormed1 wrote on 18.01.2011 8:02 AM:Basically i think concentration is the difference. In the high end league people are more focused on executing shots. People tend to bowl up to the competition around them. I know that in years past when i bowled social mixed leagues with my wife i would use that league as a "practice session". I would throw ball and lines that may not have been the "correct" one to use but what i wanted to work on or try out


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+1. A professional environment makes you a better bowler. I avoid social leagues because - while it is fun - you hardly have the right surroundings to focus on what you are doing. If you want to challenge yourself for concentration, practice next to a kiddy birthday party. But social league is IMHO wasted effort - it is good to have fun and practice, but not the best choice to actually improve your game.

What I have done, though, is joining several local tournaments for company-facilitated sports activities (which has a separate organisation/governing body here in Germany, in parallel to the official sport bowling), and I found these occasions to be very helpful for my sport league. You have a more serious atmosphere, ambitions are higher than in social league, etiquette is taken seriously. You only lack demanding oil patterns or oil in general, because these events normally take place on THS, which is not refreshed during all the day. Desert wars... but you learn how to fight against transition and dry heads.


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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 03:16:03 AM »
well most everyone is saying the money leagues but i myself would have to say the league that challenges you , yourself..

 

Sad to say but some of the "money leagues" are full of those house hacks, house mouse or whatever you want to call them.

 

In general the better the competitor is the it will force you to bowl higher.. One example is (use my own experience).. i move back home (while going thru divorce). and my parents neighbor had a team that needed 2 bowlers. I talked my sister into joining with me.  This guys was only a 160 ave bowler (is was just fun for him). My sister and i started in week 3 and were allowed to make the first 2 wks up..  by wk10 the neighbor was up into the 180's and was amazed at that.. even tho this guy was almost old enough to be my father he asked my advise on bowling and he watched me (tried copying me).  What little bite i do knew/know (i'm by far a coach) by the end of the season he was maintaining a 190 ave..  It wasn't a money league i was a fun league (something like 8 teams). there were a few high ave bowlers on the league (i was 202) which i had never bowled in that house so but was a ths. 

then i have seen a guy that bowled in a scratch money league and then bowled in a mixed (but highly competitive) league being they were in 2 diff houses in the mixed league he sucked and so slurped the scotch (didn't help matters).  same bowled that talked big in the 1 house couldn't do squat in the other.

 

Long story short pick 1 or both but just challenge yourself, you are your biggest opponent.


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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 10:58:29 AM »
going for the money I enjoy that pressure.


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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 11:07:32 AM »
I find the mixed leagues can present their own challenge. I bowl a "New Ball" league every summer. This league is mostly new bowlers and the house offers a few balls at a reduced price to encourage new bowlers. When you have a lot of new bowlers, the pattern can get pretty messy. Most of the people on this league don't so much as throw a line as they spray paint the lane with their ball. Add in about half the league will use a house ball which leads to serious carry down and you have yourself a nice little test by the third game every week.




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Re: Which helps your game more? Bowling weak social or high money leagues
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 12:43:51 PM »
I find value in both.

 

When I'm in a social league, I try to experiment with different lines/angles to the pocket, different ball speeds, different releases, etc.  There's also the added benefit of the chaos around me.  By that I mean that I can work on my concentration and focus by attempting to block out the non-existent lane courtesy, the boorishly loud drunks, the "I think I'm good so I pound ball returns when I leave a half ten pin" doofuses, and the usually too-loud music that they play over the speakers during league.

 

In turn, that lets me hone certain skills that I wouldn't otherwise get in the more "sterile" surroundings of the better leagues that I bowl in.  So, while I'm bowling in the better leagues, hopefully my game is sharp.


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