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BrianCRX90

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Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« on: December 07, 2010, 09:16:55 AM »
Got a legitimate question: Why since we are USBC does leagues have the right to insist that you have to have one of the opposite sex on a league? Most leagues have turned against this rule mainly due it was too difficult to find a woman to bowl on some teams. Two leagues I bowled on passed a notion to change to any sex but one league I am bowling on now refuses so the team I joined is forced to have a vacant bowler. I don't get it. Either we are united or let's go back to being men and woman. Also, I love the arguement having all men on a team is such an advantage in a handicap league which is laughable.

 

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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 05:21:18 PM »
It's not that way in my area. Sure, there are mixed leagues that require at least one member of the oppposite sex, but we have Mens leagues, Womens leagues etc.

The scratch leagues I'm in do not specify either way, either you can hold your own or not. Male or female doesn't enter into it.
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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 05:35:25 PM »
It is the choice of the league  I have bowled in a league that in its league rules only allowed men.  just as a womens league could mandate only women and all the combinations in between.

The creation of USBC only made it easier to have any combination of men/women the ultimate decision is with the individual league.  Back in the day, women that bowled in a mens league or tourney had to purchase a membership to ABC as well as WIBC if they still bowled in women's events.

I bowl one league now that doesn't specify.  we have teams of all men, some with women and one that is all women.


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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 05:50:34 PM »
sounds like you're in a mixed league, so plain and simple you have to have a mixed team. I'm sure the center you're bowling in has at least 1 league that doesn't have this requirement.

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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 07:44:04 PM »
I assume that you are in a mixed league and what you meant was a "Team" had to have at least one woman on it not the league.

the reason mixed leagues want you to have at least one woman on the team is, they are afraid a all male team would dominate the league all the time.
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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 08:11:10 PM »
Why can women bowl in mens tournaments, but not vise versa?

If it makes sense it isn't going to be done that way.
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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 09:19:17 PM »
The center or league chooses the format of the league, not USBC. You can have all men, all women or any combination. There are leagues that require two men and two women, others just one of the opposite sex and of course the all men or women leagues. The one of the opposite can be one man or one woman. It is again up to the center or the league. In our center,I believe the owners decided what they wanted to promote and that has changed over time.

As far as why women can bowl in mens, but men can't bowl in womens. That goes back to the ABC and WIBC. The American Bowling Congress had to allow women, since they are Americans. The WIBC, Womens International Bowling Congress, did not since they were a Womens only organization. Had the ABC forefathers ever thought that day would come, it might have been the American Men's Bowling Association or something like that. I would venture that since the merger, the seperation is strictly a choice that the USBC has made. If the Women's nationals were made an open event, there would be two open nationals. That wouldn't make any sense, so they keep one open and the womens event. Many local associations are still not merged, so they have the two events as well. Independent tournaments can do whatever they want. My events are open, but once upon a time we had a Men's division and a Women's division. I ended the women's and created the open format due to lack of entries in the women's only portion but many tournaments still offer both or an open and womens.

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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 10:46:33 PM »
my old monday nite team has this issue, back in 2002??  Well one guy had to stop bowling ( cant remember the reason ) well his replacement was a lady.... and she averaged around 190... even shot a few high 600's and low 700's..  well the following year comes about and the league Pres. tells me that we cant have her bowling on our team cuz it's technically a MEN's league...   And that some of the men were a bit uneasy about her being in the league....

I think it was more that, she was a better bowler than most of these guys were......and they didnt want to be shown up by her...
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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 08:29:24 AM »
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The scratch leagues I'm in do not specify either way, either you can hold your own or not. Male or female doesn't enter into it.
 


Ditto, and +1

Who cares about the sex of the bowler if they can get it done? I had a woman on my scratch league team for 3 years, and she more than held her own. When it comes down to it, that's all that matters.

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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 09:13:12 AM »
You would be surprised to find out (well maybe not) that a lot of husbands or males, use bowling as their night out away from their wives, girlfriends etc, and would prefer that there were no women in the bowling center except for the cute bartenders and waitresses so they can hit on them all night.

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Re: Why do you have to have opposite sexes on leagues?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 10:15:44 AM »
Conversely, many husbands and wives use bowling as a night out together. Even with rising lineage fees it is still a relatively inexpensive night out and my wife gets to socialize with all of her friends that are in the league as well (and I can just concentrate on bowling!)


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You would be surprised to find out (well maybe not) that a lot of husbands or males, use bowling as their night out away from their wives, girlfriends etc, and would prefer that there were no women in the bowling center except for the cute bartenders and waitresses so they can hit on them all night.

Edited on 12/8/2010 10:14 AM