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T Brockette

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Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« on: July 28, 2008, 02:59:47 PM »
Didn't know my camera could record...a few short videos. Before anyone says anything, I know about the hitch in my backswing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhVgi3L87d4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmX40GfQJow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNhLyNFsVvI



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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 11:17:17 PM »
Was that tonight in league? I didn't even see your camera..

Looks good to me.. Nice soft hand release..
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 11:46:41 PM »
So Tonx, your saying that if I try to get that more in line, my swing won't fade to the right at the top of my backswing?

Unfortunately I  can't do a whole lot about the bend....bad, bad, bad knees!

I really appreciated the input and advice!
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 11:47:21 PM »
I don't know, absolute. I don't see the early pushaway. I see pushaway in the 4th step of 5 step approach. I see the kick out of the arm, but it's brought back into alignment, quickly, at the top of the backswing, a good thing, I believe. There's a lot of un-necessary arm muscle involvement with the bringing back into alignment, the hand/forearm.

Tracy (I didn't picture the bald and the moustache with the name Tracy but that's just prejudice on my part),

At this point, I wouldn't change a thing.
KISS is involved, IF you want it to be. I think a good coach (Silver level or above) is needed to stop that, along with video, to keep the armswing in one plane.
(KISS = keep it simple, stupid. No insult intended, of course it's just an acronym that is very to-the-point in bowling.)

Since your delivery seems to do this every time, I don't think it is of immediate concern. But you may want to adjust it at some time in the fututre.

I agree about a knee bend. You don't have one. It would help in the future for bowling release leverage and to NOT have knee problems in the future. it will also help NOT to loft the ball as much that is more important on heavier oil and on wet/dry conditions.

Otherwise, I think your timing is more than reasonable.

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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 11:54:53 PM »
Charlest....thanks for the input. You and Tonx are right, I definitely need to work on the knee bend. People have always mentioned my backswing, but somehow I seem to unknowingly line it back up. I appreciate the reply!
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 08:22:18 AM »
Tracy,
Don't worry about the armswing. If it's repeatable it can work. I have a coach who has me bring it outside on the backswing because I have broad shoulders and not much flexibility. As long as the release is "underneath" it's not a problem.


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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 11:10:15 AM »
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Sweet, T!  WHOOOOOOOOO (in my Ric Flair voice)....you and I are going to tear them up when we go drinking! Who is going to mess with us menacing guys?



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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 11:18:13 AM »
Tracy....."if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

I've gotten into lots of trouble thru out my bowling years by trying to fix something that wasn't broke and is probably one of the biggest reasons I am not a better bowler than what I am today. I would read books on how a person is SUPPOSED to do it or watch someone else that seemed to do everything like a person is SUPPOSED to do it, then go out and try to "fix it" and end up getting into all kinds of problems and going down hill. Sometimes it seemed to take forever to get back to where I was to begin with and other times I never got back to how I once did it.
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 11:59:06 AM »
As long as you're bowling well I wouldn't recommend changing your backswing.  Now, as to why it happens -- shoulders will only go straight back so far before they reach the limit of their flexibility (try, without a ball, going straight back with yours - I think you'll see what I'm saying).  When it reaches that flexibility limit one of two things happens.  The shoulders could rotate open a little to allow the backswing to continue up.  Or the swing goes out of line.  In your case, the shoulders don't open so the swing goes temporarily out of line.  Not necessarily a bad thing so long as the swing gets lined back up, which yours does.  If you decide to try to eliminate it, either lower your backswing a little so you don't reach the flexibility limit or open your shoulders a little.  Just my opinion.  --  JohnP
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 12:46:34 PM »
Didn't know your camera could record?  Hah, that's a good one!

In your video your elbow appears to somewhat inconsistently flop around a little.  You might want to try changing that by making "tucking your elbow in" a regular part of your pre-shot routine.
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 01:07:42 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 03:23:46 PM »
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The shoulders could rotate open a little to allow the backswing to continue up. Or the swing goes out of line.


The non-bowling arm is a good way to determine if a bowler's shoulders open as the back swing progresses. If the non-bowling arm is pointing forward towards the pins when the ball is at the top of the back swing, it is a good indication that the bowler is opening the shoulder. That is the case in these videos.

As others have said, there is no one "right" way, but there IS what is repeatable and generally the simpler something is the easier it is to repeat.

To me the bump-out at the top of the swing is not as desirable as a straight back swing because it is not as simple.  T - if you don't miss your target very often, I wouldn't worry about it.

The added motion can hurt you in other places, but it is impossible to tell from these videos if it is doing so.

You have a solid core, and that can help smooth out a number of small problems.

If you have a medical problem with the knee of your slide leg that can not be cured,  if it is a medical problem, there isn't much you can do, and it looks to me that you're doing the best you can with what you have.
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2008, 03:30:34 PM »
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Was that tonight in league? I didn't even see your camera..

Looks good to me.. Nice soft hand release..


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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2008, 08:54:17 PM »
The bump at the top is cause because your backswing is going higher than your shoulder socket can go (so it rotates to allows it to continue).  I dont have a problem with the lack of knee bend. However, to compensate for that I think you are slightly bent too far forward (loosing some projection with a limited follow through). I might suggest you think of wayne webb who had limited knee bend and released the ball from a high position. Now that I have been picky it really does not matter how you throw it, if you can repeat it ( within 2.5 boards at your break point, rev rate consistantly within 25 rpm per each shot and each shot with in .25mph of each other) you are going to do well indeed.

There is something that everyone wants to improve. If you every stop trying to improve you certainly will get passed over by those behind you. However, everyone has limits and you have to weight the benifits against the cost. I for one think your game is developing quite well.
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Re: Short Vids of me - - ya'll quit laughing!
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2008, 11:15:51 PM »
Thanks for the replies and suggestions everyone!
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