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HamPster

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First of all, Bowler's Journal screwed up nearly everything in their short article for the ABC tournament about Ron Bahr, the singles champ and first person in the 100 year history of the tournament to shoot back to back 300's.  The date was wrong, and they said the 300's were the first two games followed by the 237, rather than the way it actually was, which was 237-300-300.  Upon further examination, it was discovered that everything the BJ reported was taken word for word from the ABC website, where it was consequently incorrect as well.  

Apart from that fiasco was the situation.  Ron is a true amateur in the full meaning of the word.  He bowls 3 or 4 leagues a week in the winter, he's not on any company's staff, he doesn't get free or even discounted equipment, (unless my boss kicks kicks a few bucks off, lol) and hasn't ever bowled big tournaments like the Mini or Super Hoinke.  He's not your average spray it and score league bowler, however, he won the Bowler of the Year award for our city for 2002-2003 based on accomplishments unrelated to his performance in Knoxville.  

My longwinded point is that his national record seems to have been sluffed off.  ABC didn't take enough care to report the 3 games in the title winning series in the right order or even list them on the right date, and BJ didn't take enough care to verify the information they found.  None of the ball companies seem interested in giving him some free equipment, and he's not asking for bags, shirts, cases of balls or anything, he'd just like a ball or two from a few companies because his arsenal is somewhat lacking.  He owns the Red Pulse he shot the 300's with, a 3D Offset, a Forest Quantum (I believe), a Wicked (original), an Angle Evolution Tour (I don't know if it's the Tour or not) and a Cherry Bomb.  He has other balls of course, but doesn't everyone have old equipment under their stairs they haven't been able to get rid of yet?  Of the balls he carries around, only a few of them see consistent use.  The Pulse is his go to ball, the 3D Offset he mainly throws at 10's with, and the Wicked is one of the first out of the bag.  

Is it too much to ask for a little help?  He's not a person to do something great and just expect people to fawn all over him, but he has equipment that's wearing out, and holes in his arsenal that he'd like to fill.  When he went to the Foundation Games Invitational in Florida, he was the ONLY one that wasn't on a company staff.  48 of the most accomplished bowlers in the world were in attendance, and most sources I heard from said that his lack of equipment hurt him incredibly.  Jaros, Mack, what do they do if they get in trouble?  That's easy, grab one of the 20 blank balls they brought with them and punch holes in it.  The way the game is today, even the greatest in the game have to have the right equipment to keep up with the rest of the best who take advantage of the technology.  Is it too much to ask Columbia if they have a 16 pound original Red Pulse laying around somewhere?  They seem indifferent.
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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2003, 04:16:58 PM »
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PPPS AMF Menace Tour is the same ball just in case you stumble upon one of those.



As was the AMF Angle Evolution Extra Tour! I got a 15 lb one NIB, if Ron wants to try that.
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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2003, 08:17:21 PM »
Thanks for the breakdown, charlest, and your comments, lefty.  I guess I got a wrong impression somewhere, and of course it's going to be a bigger deal to the people that know him.  Hehe, yeah, my bowling, the excellent work in the pro shop and my comments on sales speak loud enough . . .  (sarcasm off)  The signature is still there because it's an inside thing, and because I really haven't thought of anything better to change it to.  You'll notice the second line of my signature has been there for a good deal of time as well.  I suppose I'll just have to chalk it up to misunderstanding the way things are.  Thanks for all the replies and opinions.
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charlest

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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2003, 09:38:57 PM »
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Thanks for the breakdown, charlest, and your comments, lefty.

Sorry, Hamster.
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I guess I got a wrong impression somewhere, and of course it's going to be a bigger deal to the people that know him.  Hehe, yeah, my bowling, the excellent work in the pro shop and my comments on sales speak loud enough . . .  (sarcasm off)


Hey, dude. I was not being sarcastic, not was I nbeing facetious when I said that.

All this does not diminish what Ron did. He will have that forever. What he may not have is the adulation of fickle fans. Sometimes, we have to be happy with just knowing we did good and we did right.
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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2003, 12:11:46 AM »
Yeah, I know.  I must keep reiterating that I don't want to come off as some know it all or stuck up prick.  Lol, I take pride in the things that I do, and show that pride rather well, that's all . .  I guess I'm a little touchy when it comes to matters of respect.  Used to being shafted, doesn't set well with me, get defensive really easily.  Anyway, thanks again.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2003, 01:12:29 AM »
Charlest you are right!!!!  That is the ball!  Red Pulse copy!  But it is not RED!

Just to reiterate the difference in golf and bowling.

Note all the comments above, it was just a good set, it was just two games.

Versus Golf, a man named Evan "Big Cat Williams" won the first long drive championship shown on TV and instantly had a 6 figure income that went on for years!!!!!  He hit one drive 366.  Not 36 shots that averaged 366, ONE shot!

I think to this day almost 20 years later he is still making over $100,000 to $200,000 a year.

One SHOT!

Here is a guy who sets a record that may not be achieved for another 80 years, and with 75 cents he might get a very small cup of coffee!  Sugar extra!

REgards,

Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

Ric Clint

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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2003, 11:01:36 PM »
Hamster Revolutions, I sent you a message about a NIB 16lb Red Pulse on ebay.com:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3623250580&category=2905





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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2003, 07:53:41 PM »
And there you have it.  Lol, told ya I didn't have all the facts!  And by the way Kristi, Eric just got some Sonic X Solids in . . .  Got a 15-5 with a 4.5 inch pin with your name on it.  Looks pretty good . .
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The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine.  They're more entertaining anyway.

HamPster

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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2003, 08:17:19 PM »
Well hey, with that 20 buck gift certificate, it ought to knock the ball down considerably . .
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Re: So I guess winning ABC Nats isn't that big of a deal anymore . . .
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2003, 08:34:01 PM »
First of all congrats to Ron that excellent job. In regards to getting anything from the ball companies or anyone else it does take a long time to get anything. In regards to Jeremy S. it was not right away when he got anything. It was not just for that ONE day that he has received what he has. He also has some good experience in college bowling as well. I use to bowl against him in youth leagues and a little now. What both of these guys have accomplished is amazing and someday would love to do what both have done. Who says that the only equipment that you have to buy is all high line equipment. Right now in my eyes some of the best equipment out there is the mid line equipment. There are a lot of old balls that people would love to get their hands on a new one. One guy up here still throws the old blue hammer on a regular basis and scores very well with it. He has sometime out on the tour as well but don't see him on a ball staff for anyone even though he has enough game to be on anybody's ball staff in my opinion. One thing that I think is kind of forgotten here is with all the new equipment being released the ball companies are looking at providing equipment to people who can move that ball. That is no different from any other sport. I am a big nascar fan you always see sponsors coming and going for what ever reason. Ball manufactures are the same sponsor who can sell....