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Is this considered heavy oil?
« on: November 20, 2016, 01:52:40 AM »
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2016, 02:03:10 AM »

In my opinion the length is long, but not a heavy volume.  My house shot has more volume than that. 
Last summer in a sport challenge league I bowled a pattern with about that length but the volume was 33 ml and it was SLICK.


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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2016, 02:12:01 AM »

In my opinion the length is long, but not a heavy volume.  My house shot has more volume than that. 
Last summer in a sport challenge league I bowled a pattern with about that length but the volume was 33 ml and it was SLICK.

It's a 2-1 ratio, how would it be played do you think?
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 08:05:33 AM »
The 2:1 ratio is important information.

On longer, flatter patterns I usually keep my breakpoint closer to the pocket than THS, so I usually try to play straighter up 11-12 board with something that's around 2000 and smooth reaction.

As they transition you can open up angles slightly, but be careful not to miss outside because you'll likely miss the pocket.  Just imagine moving inward but not swinging the ball outside.  Depending on how many guys are on your pair, and several other factors, you can sometimes ball down over time. 

The flat patterns can really expose any inconsistencies with speed, release, revs, etc., because you really don't have much miss room either direction.  Miss out and miss the head pin, while a slight tug in and the ball goes Brooklyn or worse.  Just try to stay relaxed and smooth with everything so you can repeat (somewhat) your ball path and reaction. 

You're gonna hear lots of whining from bowlers, but don't fall into that trap.  Keep your head about you and look at it as a challenge.  Too many guys just give up mentally on flat patterns because they require a level of precision that we're not used to, and it defeats them early on. 

Everybody struggles on these, and if you move to other lanes they can play quite differently due to everyone spraying their shots all over trying to find an easy line that doesn't exist.  Just stay calm and do what you can to stay close to the head pin. Be prepared to throw some Brooklyns that carry, and some pocket hits that leave pins...  It's all part of the test.  Best of luck to you. 

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2016, 10:27:25 AM »
Thanks for the assistance Lane!!

On a side note. I got to thinking, what even is conserved "medium oil" and "heavy oil" patterns by today's standards? I know people like to gerenalize by length but I don't see how that makes sense because, it could essentially be a lower volume just more spread out.
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2016, 11:05:29 AM »
Thanks for the assistance Lane!!

On a side note. I got to thinking, what even is conserved "medium oil" and "heavy oil" patterns by today's standards? I know people like to gerenalize by length but I don't see how that makes sense because, it could essentially be a lower volume just more spread out.

A couple of years back in a local tourney here, we got on of USBC's White patterns. It had 27 ml. of oil per lane.  Even that is considered medium to medium-heavy, not true heavy.
I'm not sure where the cut-off is, to be considered true heavy oil.

Of course, the amount of oil doesn't reflect the true difficulty of the pattern. I'd imagine 23-24 ml of 1:1 ratio would be harder than 30 ml of nice blended, oh say 8:1 pattern.
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2016, 03:07:01 PM »
Here's the info I've collected on what's considered light, medium, or heavy oil.
(Basically there is no carved in stone definition, What's heavy oil for one person is medium for someone else.)


OIL! What's a Unit?

and what makes a lane condition light, medium, or heavy.


What is the definition of a unit of oil?

The term “Unit” has been around for years and frankly most bowlers had no idea what a Unit of oil was, other than that the more Units there were, The oilier the lanes generally were.

A "unit" of oil was defined by the American Bowling Congress (ABC) and Women's International Bowling Congress (WIBC) as 0.0167 cubic centimeters of oil evenly spread over a 1 sq. ft. surface, which equates to a film of oil about 7 millionths of an inch thick. (This information can be found in the USBC "Computerized Lane Inspection Program Manual" aka: The “Clip” manual)

Most look at a Unit as a measurement of volume, When it really is more a measurement of how deep or thick a layer of oil is on the lane.

In USBowler Magazine Vol.2, No.3 Spring 2007 Page 12 Coach's Corner, There is a article "Everything you wanted to know about lane conditions" where they give a example of the thickness.

Example: a piece of typing paper is about 400 units thick.
(.000007*400=.0028", A piece of 16# bond paper is about .0032" thick. So that's pretty close.)

So how many Units were considered Heavy or Light oil?
At the time a layer of oil 100-plus units would have been considered "Heavy oil" and anything less then 50 units probably would be "Light oil.

But the term “Unit” is a old term and is becoming outdated. While you can still find it being used, what you are more likely to see today is “Oil Volume” which is expressed in “milliliters of oil”

So what makes a lane condition light, medium, or heavy?
Basically there isn't a exact, straight forward, answer to this question. A lot of the time in other source's you find them defining light, medium, or heavy in terms of length.

Like in the book "Revolutions 2" they define it this way,
Oil (long oil) were lanes oiled 35 to 45 feet.
Med. were lanes oiled 25 to 35 feet.
Dry (very short oil) was 18 to 25 feet.

In USBowler Magazine Vol.2, No.3 Spring 2007 Page 12 Coach's Corner ,The article "Everything you wanted to know about lane conditions" they define it as,
Long oil as 40 feet or longer
Medium oil as 35' to 45' feet or more
Short oil 35 feet or less

In Bowling This Month magazine they rate ball's for Oil, Medium and Dry, the current issue (at the time of this writing) is showing these patterns being used.
Oily is a 44' oil (High Street)
Medium 41' oil (Main Street)
Dry 38' oil (Easy Street)

High Street, Main Street and Easy Street are in the Kegel Navigation Recreation Series of patterns. you can see them here.  http://www.kegel.net/v3/PatternLibrary.aspx

Also in a past issue of BTM (Bowling This Month). They had a article about sport shots, They had a chart showing 6 patterns made of combination's of these, with ball and drilling recommendation's for them.

Pattern Length: Short (34' or shorter), Medium (35' to 40'), Long (41' or longer)
Oil Volume: Light to Medium (20ml. or less), Medium to Heavy (More than 20ml.)

As you can see here we see “Oil Volume” in “milliliters of oil” being used,

Here Kegel listed a basic definition by Oil Volume (including a basic ball recommendation).

Light to Heavy:
Less than 18 ml use a weaker cover ball
18 - 21 ml use a weak to medium cover
21 - 25 ml use a medium to strong cover
More than 25 ml use an aggressive coverstock

Mo Pinel said in reference to  light, medium, or heavy that he defines it by Oil Volume.

QUOTE: “I do it by volume.”
< 21 mls of oil = light oil
21 to 25 mls of oil = medium oil
>25 mls = heavy oil

After all is said and done,  it's not how much oil on the lane, but where it's at. Pattern's can be adjusted to make short ones appear long and long ones appear short.

Heres a quote from a article called- "Lane Pattern Basics: An Overview of Blend, Taper & Application".
http://bowlingknowledge.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=46

"the overall volume of the shot probably has the least affect, as the length that the conditioner is applied can make the "volume" almost meaningless."

When it comes to Oil and Oil patterns there are many factor's that come into play about lane condition's and how to play them.

The amount of oil is one of the smaller factor's involved.
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2016, 04:33:16 PM »
The explanations above are excellent (notclay - very nice!) but i would like to add that lane surface is also very important. A low friction synthetic surface will play much different then an older high friction wood surface. The synthetic surface would most likely play as notclay described but 27ml on a older wood surface, with a defined track, could play no more difficult then a medium-tuff house shot with an out of bounds because of the "built in" friction zone in the track area.

Knowing what type of lane surface you're bowling on, or will be bowling on, can be as important as what bowling balls you're going to use. Something to think about.

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2016, 07:54:56 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^

Absolutely!  Great point!
 
I bowl on a very hard synthetic surface with very little built-in friction so I naturally recall my struggles (and few successes).  We also use Kegel Ice conditioner (oil) that is pretty slippery stuff and holds up well. 

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2016, 10:50:59 AM »

Of course, the amount of oil doesn't reflect the true difficulty of the pattern. I'd imagine 23-24 ml of 1:1 ratio would be harder than 30 ml of nice blended, oh say 8:1 pattern.

 
This kind of nails it. It's where the oil is. Not just the absolute volume.

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2016, 11:16:39 AM »
Does lane machine make a difference too?
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2016, 01:52:57 PM »
Does lane machine make a difference too?

Somewhat.  As long as it's fairly current it should handle most of today's newer conditioners.  Our Kegel Flex machine has two tanks so you can use two different  conditioners.  Currently we are using Ice on the forward pass and Fire on the reverse. 

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2016, 02:35:09 PM »
Does lane machine make a difference too?

Somewhat.  As long as it's fairly current it should handle most of today's newer conditioners.  Our Kegel Flex machine has two tanks so you can use two different  conditioners.  Currently we are using Ice on the forward pass and Fire on the reverse. 


I don't remember where I heard or saw this, but does the A22 brunswick machine only do forward applications and not reverse?
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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2016, 09:06:38 AM »
I originally was told the same thing about the A22, but just last week was told that it does in fact have reverse oil capability. 

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Re: Is this considered heavy oil?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016, 09:12:26 AM »
FYI... from the manual here:

http://www.brunswickbowling.com/downloads/support/Authority22_v20_Lane_Machine_Operation__Service_Manual_14-900081-000.pdf

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The Authority22’s forward only conditioner application is an enormous benefit
for creating not just good ball reaction, but great ball reaction. Since the
conditioner is applied on the forward travel, the pattern transition down the
lane will always be smooth and allows the ball to store more energy for the
back end of the lane. Unlike other machines that rely on reverse conditioner
application to create the lengthwise taper of a pattern. Reverse conditioner
creates inconsistencies, within the pattern, that causes the bowling ball to release
its energy inconsistently as it travels down the lane, storing less for the back
ends. This action is responsible for making patterns less predictable and bowler
adjustments more difficult. Follow these important steps to develop proper
lane maintenance practices and a great conditioner pattern for you center.