Author Topic: to all high average bowlers on handicap leagues (Read 21003 times)

badbeard · « **on:** September 13, 2011, 11:00:15 PM »

high average bowlers can't find a scratch league how about boll a handicap league which has a 116 % of handicap and insist in bowling on a league that you have a chance of losing for a change make your money on brackets and side pots let all teams have a fair chance of winning the league. MAN UP !!!!

United States Bowling Congress (USBC) defines handicapping as the means of

placing bowlers and teams of varying degrees of bowling skill on as equitable a basis as
possible for competition against each other.
Does any handicap used by a league equalize competition?
The results of an extensive four year study of handicap leagues -- mixed, all women and
all men -- disclosed that the handicap percentages 75%, 80% and 90% do NOT achieve
this goal as illustrated by the results from the study as follows:
Championship Won by Championship Won by
Handicap Team with Average Below Team with Average Above
Percent Median in the League Median in the League
70 0 out of 100 100 out of 100
75 0 out of 100 100 out of 100
80 0 out of 100 100 out of 100
85 6 out of 100 94 out of 100
90 11 out of 100 89 out of 100
95 24 out of 100 76 out of 100
100 30 out of 100 70 out of 100
Even at 100% handicap, as the above chart shows, the higher average teams or bowlers
still have a decided edge. Seventy out of 100 championships are still won by the higher
average team when 100% handicap is used. An exact 50-50 distribution of league
championships would result only if a 116% handicap was used.
You must always look at the difference in averages well as handicap. In the table the
higher average team total is 73% or 223 pins higher than the lower average team.
As shown below, when both teams bowl their exact averages; the higher average team
always wins unless the handicap is 100%, then the teams tie.
BASE 200
TEAM A TEAM B
Average 80% 90% 100% Average 80% 90% 100%
Linda 120 64 72 80 Dave 150 40 45 50
Dick 115 68 76 85 Patti 167 26 29 33
Kathy 95 84 94 105 Scott 185 12 13 15
Jeff 135 52 58 65 Terri 188 9 10 12
Sandi 142 46 52 58 Lisa 140 48 54 60
607 314 352 393 830 135 151 170
Average + 80% = 921 Average + 80% = 965
Average + 90% = 959 Average + 90% = 981
Average + 100% = 1000 Average + 100% = 1000

jthales · « **Reply #31 on:** September 17, 2011, 02:09:24 PM »

What is average mean? If I bowl 50 over I will hav just as many or more 50 under but U dont member those scors, just the high 1s when I get lucky nuff to win.

The Bowling Pariah · « **Reply #32 on:** September 17, 2011, 02:51:53 PM »

badbeard wrote on 9/17/2011 8:37 AM:i don't care if I don't get handicap on the senior league. you are taking this too seriously as i said before this was to get minds opened up. not to pit the great talented young gun against the older bowlers well past their prime. if You want the advantage as a high young bowler you have it but when you are older like 70 and you no longer have the speed you once had and can not score because your hand shakes now maybe you will understand, sorry to see you only see the world from your side of the fence but as we all do if we bowl as long as we can you will cross over that fence and see the other side. bowl well score well be all that you can be

Mr. Beard,

You say I am taking this too seriously. It seems to me that YOU took it seriously enough to get a higher % handicap pushed through in your league. Now, you seem to want to claim that it was your concern for the older generation that "can't keep up". Well, like I said, I'm 51 now, my abilities have diminished, and they will continue to do so. That is a sad fact of life that I have to be a big boy and face up to.

You and I have different views and mindsets. I realize that I am getting older, and also that there will always be a new generation to come along and replace me. That's the way it always has been, and the way it was meant to be, so I am good with that. Instead of being envious of the "young guns", and expecting them to give me enough pins to let me keep up with them through artificial means, I do what I can, and simply watch with awe, appreciation, and amazement at what they are able to do.

I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF, BECAUSE I WAS CAPABLE OF IT MYSELF ONCE.

I do not envy them their skills and abilities, I APPRECIATE THEM. I taught many of the good ones here how to bowl in the first place. When I was the "young gun", they were the "new guys" who wanted to learn how to bowl, who wanted to know what it took to be "that good", and it was my great pleasure to help them in every way that I knew how. In many cases, the students have surpassed the teacher, but I don't feel cheated, or taken advantage of, at all. It has ALWAYS been my goal to help people enjoy this sport/game as much as I possibly could, by whatever means I could, as long as it was a constructive situation.

WE ALL GET OLD, THAT'S THE WAY LIFE IS. OUR TALENTS DIMINISH AS WE AGE, AND IT IS UP TO US TO BE ADULT ABOUT IT AND DEAL WITH IT.

I truly hope I still CAN bowl when I'm 70 years old, but I sure as heck don't think I'll be able to average 220 then, nor do I believe that I should be able to beat guys who can. I'll do then what I do now, bowl for the simple love of the game.

Its never been about purely winning for me anyway, but I've been told I'm a "rare bird". I bowl for no other reason than a pure love of the game. I wanted to know everything that was knowable about it, I wanted to be the best I possibly could be, and I wanted to help everybody else be the best they possibly could be as well. Then I wanted to "shoe up"and see just where I really stood face to face, one on one, mano y mano, and may the best man (or woman) win.

I've won leagues, shot some honor scores, and made a few bucks, but you know what my proudest moment in this sport is? Its NOT the 700 series I shot at state one year in singles. Neither is it the 800 series I finally was able to shoot. It was that night, a long time ago, that one of the best bowlers around here at that time came up to me and told me he had noticed me, and that he was going to have to keep his eye out for me in the future. It was a magical moment for me, a "right of passage" of a sort. It meant that I had achieved notariety, that I had become a "threat", that I had done something for myself that no amount of handicap could ever accomplish. I will never forget that moment.

Sorry this got so long, but things like this are important to me. I spent the greatest majority of my adult life learning everything I could about this sport, and developing my skills to the greatest extent possible for me, dreaming about someday possibly being a professional bowler on national TV, and I almost made it. As things worked out, that just wasn't meant to be for me, but it never, for even a moment, dulled my enthusiasm for the sport or for those who were fellow competitors.

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badbeard

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The Bowling Pariah

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