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Title: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 03, 2017, 01:13:34 PM
I've decided to change my life style and get back into shape and to return/train in Martial Arts again. But, I'm getting itchy for (heavy) weight lifting which I did decades ago. I'll be doing yoga as well..

How bad, or good, does weight lifting effect bowling physical game? Does anyone have experience to share?

(Lately, I'd rather go to the gym than to the bowling alley which is in the same parking lot.)
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 03, 2017, 01:15:01 PM
Just curls for the girls.   8)
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 03, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
Just curls for the girls.   8)

I did that for years at the buffet lol.....
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 03, 2017, 01:23:37 PM
Just curls for the girls.   8)

I did that for years at the buffet lol.....

 :P  :P  :P
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: storybook123 on August 03, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
I would build up your core strength and also do squats, lunges etc, and going to the gym before league is usually a bad idea haha.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: SVstar34 on August 03, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
If you focus on your core and legs you'll improve your base which can be beneficial for a lot of people in bowling.

As long as you stay flexible, meaning don't bulk up, you shouldn't affect anything negatively
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: morpheus on August 03, 2017, 02:26:02 PM
I do cardio and weights focusing on legs and core strength. I do work the upper body as well but as others have said, flexibility is key. Regardless of your age, I like the way Ron Mohr expressed it when it comes to fitness...you want to be in good enough shape that the physical aspect of competing is a non issue so it's all about the mental aspect and execution.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: rocky61201 on August 03, 2017, 02:30:57 PM
Hard to give advice without knowing your age/weight/body type.  I used to hit the gym hard 5 times a week focused on heavy work.  Now at 47 years old and focused on bowling; I lift 2/3 times per week because I bowl 3 nights per week.  Nothing heavy anymore, just trying to maintain health/strength for my age. 

It doesn't affect my bowling game at all.  It might hurt your game in the beginning because your body isn't used to the gym.  So you will be a little stiff.  Keep it up and your body will adjust. 

The things I try to incorporate into my work out to help bowling is when doing curls for example, I'll relax my forearm/wrist at the bottom, then flex my forearm/wrist at the same time I'm curling upward.  Also when doing pulling type exercises I try to grip the bar and focus on grabbing/squeezing with my fingertips/thumb to try to increase my grip strength. 

I don't know if those little things are paying off, but it can't hurt.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: spmcgivern on August 03, 2017, 02:38:06 PM
Everyone is different.

For me, I generally bowled better when I worked out.  Didn't matter what I was doing, aerobic or anaerobic.  What was more important for me is proper stretching and core work. 

I know you have some history so listen to your body.  You can have muscles and bowl well, just look at George Branham III.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 03, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
I do cardio and weights focusing on legs and core strength. I do work the upper body as well but as others have said, flexibility is key. Regardless of your age, I like the way Ron Mohr expressed it when it comes to fitness...you want to be in good enough shape that the physical aspect of competing is a non issue so it's all about the mental aspect and execution.

^^^

This makes sense. 

I need to get off my lazy ass and do something to increase my ball speed.  Mine is adequate now and I'm pretty good overall across larger blocks but I think bumping my speed up some would only help. 
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 03, 2017, 04:32:54 PM
I've been athletic more than half of my life, the last 15 years I let everything go. I had (in my mind) no reason to train or workout, I wasn't competing anymore and I didn't have to make weight. I was stronger, faster, and much more flexible than I am now. I have to go diving just to tie my Gdamn shoes.

I've tried to lose the weight in the past, which I did, 38 lbs. total, but I gained it back. My fall back was my mental attitude - made too many excuses, being lazy on my diet and getting up at 5:30 am to workout. But, I've made some mental adjustments and enhancements to get the ball rolling. And this mental attitude change actually translated into my bowling. I gained 15 sticks after being stuck in the low deuce for 8 years.

AC/DC - Attitude Core Diet Continue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG_rrVwSqEs

Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: rocky61201 on August 03, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
I've been athletic more than half of my life, the last 15 years I let everything go. I had (in my mind) no reason to train or workout, I wasn't competing anymore and I didn't have to make weight. I was stronger, faster, and much more flexible than I am now. I have to go diving just to tie my Gdamn shoes.

I've tried to lose the weight in the past, which I did, 38 lbs. total, but I gained it back. My fall back was my mental attitude - made too many excuses, being lazy on my diet and getting up at 5:30 am to workout. But, I've made some mental adjustments and enhancements to get the ball rolling. And this mental attitude change actually translated into my bowling. I gained 15 sticks after being stuck in the low deuce for 8 years.

AC/DC - Attitude Core Diet Continue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG_rrVwSqEs

Congratulations on gaining 15 sticks.  I think you could pick up even more by getting back in the gym and getting in better shape.  I would ease back into it slowly and try to find exercises that compliment/improve your bowling game.

Also, I wouldn't focus on the scale and setting weight loss targets.  If you do it right, those extra pounds will come off.  It's better to worry about increasing the numbers your bowling than the numbers your trying to lose when stepping on the scale.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: milorafferty on August 03, 2017, 05:12:21 PM
I work out daily, only 12 ounces at a time, but a lot of reps.

I've achieved turning my 6 pack into a kegger
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Roller on August 04, 2017, 12:00:40 AM
It is always a good idea to devote time to your health. This will improve your game, too, as if you suffer from fatigue at all during a long set of games, this will improve your conditioning and endurance for bowling.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 04, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
a friend stopped bowling to become this! and he was a very good bowler too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0GFINKtfc
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 04, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
It is always a good idea to devote time to your health. This will improve your game, too, as if you suffer from fatigue at all during a long set of games, this will improve your conditioning and endurance for bowling.

I was getting winded bowling one night against vacant. We had 3 bowlers and the pace was fast and I lost my breath...that was one of the turning points....
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: northface28 on August 04, 2017, 01:57:12 PM
I workout 6 or 7 days a week. A mix of Orange Theory (4x) and traditional meathead lifting (2-3x). Hasn't adversely affected my bowling, however I can't say there's a significant improvement either. What I can say is I feel things. That early turn, swing getting too far away from my body is much easier to feel now that I am more In tune with my body. I will say, your eating better be in check. That dogshit food served at bowling alleys? Definitely cut that out.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 15, 2017, 04:31:59 PM
Well after three weeks of working out - cardo to heavy weights, I've dropped several sticks. My focus has improved, but I'm seeing many ringing tens and solid 9's. My speed is up, but I also find myself muscling some shots. I really have to focus on my breathing and getting to relax my bowling arm and resting the ball on my left non bowling hand when I'm on the approach.

I'm not stopping my visits to the gym that's for sure, even if my bowling game suffers a bit. I gain no benefits from bowling besides it's a hobby I enjoy.

I ended the winter season at 204, and before the summer league started I set a goal to be 220 for more than have the summer season. I did it, highest at 224. It wasn't the average that was important, it was the goal I set and reached.

And yes, the bowling alley food are slow killers.... except this one private house in downtown sac, they have a good menu hahahaha

Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: ronaldhjr on August 16, 2017, 07:30:28 AM
I have been working out pretty much all my young adult life to the present time.  The endurance I have when working out and bowling is what I see for my game, being able to focus and playing a sport plays hand in hand in working out.  A couple things I use to help my bowling while working out.  I will pick a focal point when doing a set and try my best never to take my eyes off that focal point while breathing as normal as possible.  The other thing I work on is grip pressure on my fingers and keeping my thumb as flat as possible.  Doing this helps me grab with my fingers and not with my thumb.  Overall I think working out is great when participating in any physical sport.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Freddy on August 16, 2017, 07:47:28 AM
Been working on my core and doing leg work!  Treadmill, etc. 
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: mainzer on August 16, 2017, 06:45:46 PM
Push-ups lunges running stairs and walking
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Tom on August 16, 2017, 07:30:53 PM
At 70 with shot knees, I do a complete upper body workout twice a week. on bowling nights I use hi-end knee braces and take an anti-inflammatory with an analgesic.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: bergman on August 27, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
I am pushing 70, too. I had to start using knee braces when I was in my late 50s.
I have worked out all my life, mostly weight lifting which I still do, but not nearly with the heavy weights I used to lift. Now, I focus more on light- to -moderate cardio and some weight lifting to stay in some semblance of shape, concentrating on the legs.
On bowling days, I do not work out at all. The only "exercise" I do on those days is
lifting my bags from the trunk and lugging them into the bowling center. I avoid doing any pre-bowling stretches, knee bends, or any other warm up exercises. I simply start by rolling the ball down the lane.  This is the routine that works best for me. 
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on August 27, 2017, 02:15:40 AM
Since this post, I lost another 6 lbs. lifting heavy and doing HIIT workouts (this kicks my ass). Also, I'm completing 122 push ups a day till Christmas Day. It's a goal I will complete...At 44 yrs old with my youngest at 4 yrs old, this is for her.

So far, working out hasn't have any negative effect with my bowling. Bowling the same which is a good sign.

It's good to see folks here on br of all ages working out. Working in the medical field and seeing many sick ppl in the hospital or in chronic settings like dialysis sucks. I don't wish these on anyone. Many of these patients have "regrets" or "I wish" factors. I don't feel sorry for them.....
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: northface28 on August 27, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
Since this post, I lost another 6 lbs. lifting heavy and doing HIIT workouts (this kicks my ass). Also, I'm completing 122 push ups a day till Christmas Day. It's a goal I will complete...At 44 yrs old with my youngest at 4 yrs old, this is for her.

So far, working out hasn't have any negative effect with my bowling. Bowling the same which is a good sign.

It's good to see folks here on br of all ages working out. Working in the medical field and seeing many sick ppl in the hospital or in chronic settings like dialysis sucks. I don't wish these on anyone. Many of these patients have "regrets" or "I wish" factors. I don't feel sorry for them.....

I dont feel sorry people who make themselves sick, no matter if its cigarettes, the western diet (heavy fast food/sugary drinks) or the like. You reap what you sew.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: ImaRedbird on September 01, 2017, 09:40:20 AM
This past winter, i wanted to get into better shape. I lost 40 lbs in the first 6-7 weeks. It affected my game tremendously. I was hurling the ball (unintentionally), my timing was off, and things were uncontrollable. I started league, having second high avg. of 203, and I ended at 178. Needless to say I've struggled. Since then, i've picked up some weights, and worked on my timing - I'm back up to 200. All that to say, like others mentioned - be conscious of your flexibility, but also keep an eye out for your timing.
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: Crash7189 on September 01, 2017, 10:51:52 AM
I have been doing a program called 5X5 strong lift  here is the link
https://stronglifts.com/  I am stronger now then I was in my 20's & 30's I am now 58

I squat 310# bench 225# and over head press 125#. I followed the app to the letter and built strength and muscle no bulk, this program is fast and fun each day, check out the app for your phone they have a free version  Between this and running I have lost 40+ lbs. the older you get it is hard to lose weight and build muscle. Helped my bowling a lot I never get tried have ton of energy now.

Check it out it is easy to follow and you never are sore if you follow the program.

I swear by it and many of my friends are now doing it

Just my .02
Title: Re: anyone working out, lifting?
Post by: xrayjay on September 01, 2017, 11:07:50 AM
I do several programs to keep it "fresh". I do programs from Athlean-X, DDP yoga (Diamond Dallas Page yoga), HIIT workouts I customize w/ exercises I hate most, boxing, and kata's and kumite drills (no the the hopping like an idiot point sparring lol).

Also, I complete 122 push ups a day until Christmas. This is more of a mental, motivation drill for myself. See how far I will push myself.

Just like bowling, we need strong mental conditioning to do Nutrition and Training...plus, patience.