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Moon57

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Applying lane oil to ball?
« on: August 14, 2008, 01:31:18 AM »
The other day i was looking at the approved cleaner/polish list at the USBC site and happened to see that it's illegal to apply lane oil to the ball during competition. That means it's legal to apply to the ball any other time? I never heard of this before but I wonder if this could be a solution to burnt lanes. Some good bowlers I see bowling on burnt alleys throw old beat up balls that look like they've never been cleaned but the ball reaction is very smooth and controllable. What would happen if lane oil was applied to a ball until it wouldn't soak anymore up, then that ball was thrown on burnt alleys? It seems like it would have to be real smooth. Has anybody here ever tried this?
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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 09:38:49 AM »
Visionary's site stated at one time, not sure if it still does, to apply oil to the Midnight Scorcher to increase hooking action.  The more oil the ball absorbed the more rougher the coverstock got.

Note, I've never actually tried that but don't imagine there being a problem if you manage to get some volume of lane oil to use for cover adjustments.

Kind of a side bit of sarcasm, if it's illegal to apply lane oil during USBC competition to your ball then it should be illegal to bowl on freshly oiled lanes, as it applies itself while the ball travels down lane.  


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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 11:14:24 AM »
A_P_K,
I have to agree with you on that SARCASM.  It's not legal for us to put it on.  We throw the ball down the lane so wouldn't we be responsible for putting the oil on the ball?????????????????

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 11:21:07 AM »
I've herad of guys on tour doing this during practice during their matches.  If I remember correctly, they were applying it to a spare ball to push oil down the lane in a certain spot.  They were trying to create hang at a spot down the lane where their opponent was playing.  Sort of the opposite of using a sanded ball to burn up a spot.  Not really sure if it worked or not though...

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 11:35:18 AM »
There are a few guys when they dislike the other tour member this is done, I know of one exempt guy who soaked his ball in a bucket of oil the night before a match about 3 years ago. At that time there was no PBA rule against this, he pissed the other guy off by spraying oil everywhere or him on the left side. The member who did this is a righty but there was nothing Illegal at that time to stop him.

The righty of course won and went on to the round of 8 and lost, the well known lefty groaned and moaned until the PBA change the rule on this. This is what really happens on tour I think it is pretty good stuff.



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I've herad of guys on tour doing this during practice during their matches.  If I remember correctly, they were applying it to a spare ball to push oil down the lane in a certain spot.  They were trying to create hang at a spot down the lane where their opponent was playing.  Sort of the opposite of using a sanded ball to burn up a spot.  Not really sure if it worked or not though...

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 11:40:54 AM »
I don't remember any PBA pro applying lane conditioner to their ball and then throwing it.

Some have used plastic balls and sanded balls to move/remove lane conditioner and try to build a shot.

I heard one report of a right handed bowler throwing on the left to try and mess up the left side.

But I don't believe they applied lane conditioner to a ball and then throw it.

Moon57

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 11:43:49 AM »
This is what it says on the USBC site - "The manual application of any lane oil to a bowling ball by a bowler during certified competition is prohibited". I take this to mean that it's not illegal if I do it at home. Agree or disagree?
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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 11:51:33 AM »
This is why what some bowlers will do on drier conditions, is not even wipe the ball off between shots.  You cannot add oil to the ball.  But there is nothing that states you have to wipe it off after each shot.  Oil will stay on the cover to help get the ball a few feet farther before it hooks.  Little tricks of the trade.
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Moon57

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 11:57:04 AM »
Steve, I wish they had some duckpin alleys around here. Played in Va. when I was a kid. What a riot. BTW I live in central NY, where would the closest duckpin alleys be?
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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 11:59:49 AM »
I know the guy not a well known public thing, yes it does happen between guys who do not like each other and the bucket trick was used once.


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I don't remember any PBA pro applying lane conditioner to their ball and then throwing it.

Some have used plastic balls and sanded balls to move/remove lane conditioner and try to build a shot.

I heard one report of a right handed bowler throwing on the left to try and mess up the left side.

But I don't believe they applied lane conditioner to a ball and then throw it.

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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 11:35:19 PM »
Rick Beniot has mentioned to me that he takes almost every ball he drills up for the staff and sets it in a 5gal. bucket of lane oil overnight. He does this to make the ball react like its supposed to with a little oil in the cover, not the OOB cover that won't last but 5 or so games
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Re: Applying lane oil to ball?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 11:47:52 AM »
Moon,

I do not live up in that area.  I live in Atlanta.  The only time I did duckpin, was when they had a couple lanes at the Hall of Fame.  A 150 is considered a good game playing duckpin.  Wish they would open one down here.
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