Author Topic: Oil pattern durability question (Read 8191 times)

Impending Doom · « **on:** July 11, 2012, 12:34:24 AM »

OK, for the last 4 weeks in the center where I bowl, the air conditioning has been busted. People sweating all over the place, swollen hands, people sticking from the heat.

My question is, how much does the temp in the center affect the pattern? We bowled on a 40 foot Kegel pattern last swing, where the temp outside was near 100 at the time we were bowling. Seemed like the oil moved MUCH faster and sooner than it usually did before on Middle Road.

Tonight, we started a 37 foot pattern, seemed similar to Viper. The oil also seemed to move very fast.

I know it's probably going to differ, depending on lane surface, and type of oil being used, and probably the oiler.

I can't wait to bowl in air conditioning again.

sevenpin63 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:32:28 PM »

Well I bowl with DOOM in this league, and I am also a lefty.
It seemed to me that I did have to make more adjustments on the Middle of the Road pattern than this Broadway Pattern.
The Broadway pattern I only had to ball down one time for four games, all though it did happen at different times for each lane. But I have found the Middle of the Road pattern to be the easiest so far. The USBC pattern has been the hardest so far.

Quote from: LookingForALeftyWall on July 16, 2012, 06:25:21 PM

In addition to heat/humidity and/or oil type, not all patterns are created equally:

There's a way to figure out pattern durability with a formula, that I believe was created by Joe Slowinski (but I can't find the article):

Pattern Volume / Pattern Length = Transition

In theory, the higher the transition number, the more durable the pattern.

IE:
Kegel Broadway: 23.32 / 37 = .63
Kegel Middle Road: 22.72 / 40 = .58

You would expect, all thing being equal (which they never are) that Middle Road should breakdown faster. Obviously this doesn't account for people using charcoal or plastic to blow-up a pattern. It also doesn't account for lane surface or for anything else. It's just a good starting point in thinking about how quickly things could possible change.

To the original poster - Did it seem like Middle Road broke down quicker than Broadway (which is probably the 37ft pattern you bowled on)? I'm curious.

I just bowled on Broadway for the first time this weekend and I think it held up quite well. I only had to ball down once after 3 games of the 7 games I bowled. Obviously, I'm lefty but I didn't see righties ball down that much either.

Monster Pike · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2012, 10:53:27 PM »

Yeah, I agree w/ya Sevenpin... It's been fun trying to figure these patterns out. It was still kinda hot in there, but I attribute that more to the humidity than their AC system. Luckily I haven't had issues with the thumb like you have.

Speaking of thumbs... err uh passifyers, LoL.. Wonder how Doom's getting along with it this week... Hee hee...

Quote from: sevenpin63 on July 16, 2012, 07:32:28 PM

Well I bowl with DOOM in this league, and I am also a lefty.
It seemed to me that I did have to make more adjustments on the Middle of the Road pattern than this Broadway Pattern.
The Broadway pattern I only had to ball down one time for four games, all though it did happen at different times for each lane. But I have found the Middle of the Road pattern to be the easiest so far. The USBC pattern has been the hardest so far.

Quote from: LookingForALeftyWall on July 16, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
In addition to heat/humidity and/or oil type, not all patterns are created equally:

There's a way to figure out pattern durability with a formula, that I believe was created by Joe Slowinski (but I can't find the article):

Pattern Volume / Pattern Length = Transition

In theory, the higher the transition number, the more durable the pattern.

IE:
Kegel Broadway: 23.32 / 37 = .63
Kegel Middle Road: 22.72 / 40 = .58

You would expect, all thing being equal (which they never are) that Middle Road should breakdown faster. Obviously this doesn't account for people using charcoal or plastic to blow-up a pattern. It also doesn't account for lane surface or for anything else. It's just a good starting point in thinking about how quickly things could possible change.

To the original poster - Did it seem like Middle Road broke down quicker than Broadway (which is probably the 37ft pattern you bowled on)? I'm curious.

I just bowled on Broadway for the first time this weekend and I think it held up quite well. I only had to ball down once after 3 games of the 7 games I bowled. Obviously, I'm lefty but I didn't see righties ball down that much either.

sevenpin63 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:27:04 PM »

My guess it might have a calming effect. Wouldn't want some kind of explosion, that would be some gloom and DOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!

Quote from: Monster Pike on July 17, 2012, 10:53:27 PM

Yeah, I agree w/ya Sevenpin... It's been fun trying to figure these patterns out. It was still kinda hot in there, but I attribute that more to the humidity than their AC system. Luckily I haven't had issues with the thumb like you have.

Speaking of thumbs... err uh passifyers, LoL.. Wonder how Doom's getting along with it this week... Hee hee...

Quote from: sevenpin63 on July 16, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
Well I bowl with DOOM in this league, and I am also a lefty.
It seemed to me that I did have to make more adjustments on the Middle of the Road pattern than this Broadway Pattern.
The Broadway pattern I only had to ball down one time for four games, all though it did happen at different times for each lane. But I have found the Middle of the Road pattern to be the easiest so far. The USBC pattern has been the hardest so far.

Quote from: LookingForALeftyWall on July 16, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
In addition to heat/humidity and/or oil type, not all patterns are created equally:

There's a way to figure out pattern durability with a formula, that I believe was created by Joe Slowinski (but I can't find the article):

Pattern Volume / Pattern Length = Transition

In theory, the higher the transition number, the more durable the pattern.

IE:
Kegel Broadway: 23.32 / 37 = .63
Kegel Middle Road: 22.72 / 40 = .58

You would expect, all thing being equal (which they never are) that Middle Road should breakdown faster. Obviously this doesn't account for people using charcoal or plastic to blow-up a pattern. It also doesn't account for lane surface or for anything else. It's just a good starting point in thinking about how quickly things could possible change.

To the original poster - Did it seem like Middle Road broke down quicker than Broadway (which is probably the 37ft pattern you bowled on)? I'm curious.

I just bowled on Broadway for the first time this weekend and I think it held up quite well. I only had to ball down once after 3 games of the 7 games I bowled. Obviously, I'm lefty but I didn't see righties ball down that much either.

Impending Doom · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:30:20 PM »

Hey, the pacifier is working wonders. I might even use it next week to soothe my poor shot making.

Sevenpin, I can't believe that you think that the usbc shot was the hardest. That shot was pretty good. But, once again, I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE THE FREAKING AIR WASN'T ON.

St Charles Bowl is Bull$#1+. I'm sorry I ever invited you guys to come there. We should have picked somewhere else.

Sigh. Stupid management.

Monster Pike · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:11:09 PM »

Fugedduh bout it... No worries, it ain't your fault. How could you know the AC was gonna fail & they'd take their sweet a double s time in fixing it...?

avabob · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:36:53 AM »

AC wasn't working very well in our Summer PBA league last night. We were on the 44 foot shark pattern. Biggest thing I noticed was that the heads went all the way in to 4th arrow when the shot broke down, but the mids never opened up much. That can happen on long patterns, but I think the heat might have contributed.

Monster Pike · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:15:14 PM »

What were you guys finding worked better on that, avabob? Just curious.

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