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bcw1969

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Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« on: January 27, 2017, 09:57:27 PM »
I happened to take notice lately of balls lately such as "The difference"(I know it's been out for a couple years now) and this new one "Cash" .....Forgetting the high price for a second(if that is possible), would a ball like the Difference be a decent choice for a 45ft heavy oil pattern such as the one I will probably bowl on in a tournament in March? I assume the extreme asymmetry would be beneficial on such short backends--although I get the feeling that the cover isn't really super aggressive. This cash, I just watched a couple of vids on it....this ball would be different than my normal heavy oil options. When I bowl on these tournament patterns, especially the uba classic in my state where the pattern(s) are rather extreme I have been bringing with me for a number of years now my 2 Visionary Midnight Scorchers, and I have a Centaur AMB Particle, and I have an Immortal Solid, which is more core dominant than cover  dominant.  Are the more recent heavy heavy oilers able to handle more oil than my Scorchers or my Centaur Particle? how do you believe those would compare with the newer oil monsters like this "cash" ball?

It was only just a few years back where I seemed to be one of the only ones able to play in the oob at the uba classic with my scorchers--even my reactives at that time such as the amb particle & a morich high mass bias ball couldn't(for me) exit out of the heavy oil on the outside but my scorchers could.....lately...past maybe 1 to 2 years or so I have seen a few more people getting their balls out towards the oob and still getting it back to the pocket.

I guess what I am really wondering is have my "older" flood balls been eclipsed by some of the modern oilers and how would mine compare against the more modern stuff?

Brad

 

Dave81644

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2017, 10:33:53 PM »
The new heavy oil monsters are ridiculous strong now days
1st the Hammer scandal, the the Columbia Tyrant
now the new Monster is the Hammer Gauntlet.
I have a decent amount of hand and cant use these, but I would like to know what houses put out enough oil for these...
faster ball speeds and low rev guys love these balls
http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/high-performance/gauntlet

to answer your question, it seems like every few months there is something stronger and over the course of 18-24 months, its night and day difference between then and now


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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 01:03:54 AM »
The AMB Centaur Particle and the Midnight Scorcher are still easily two of the best balls ever for flooded heads. The key with those balls is that they dig and roll super early and smooth on the intended lane conditions. They are not meant to cover a lot of boards because they expend their energy so early. Super thick oil on the shorter side is a great environment for these two balls.

The big difference with the modern heavy oil balls is that they have a stronger response to friction compared to the old particle technology. They still dig in oil but they still can potentially turn the corner from deeper angles as well. This is great on longer oil patterns where you need traction in oil and a still have backend. I wouldn't necessarily say modern day oilers can handle more oil than some of the older proactive balls, it is how they respond to friction that makes the difference IMO.


bcw1969

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 04:53:33 AM »
It sounds like something more modern would compliment the oilers I have rather than replacing them.

Brad

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 01:32:05 PM »
Your particle balls will be fine for shorter but heavier patterns where you want to stay straighter through the heads and prevent a strong change of direction downlane such as on cheetah or game 1 at the usbc championships.
The newer heavy oil balls will give you more shape when playing deeper inside on heavy oil, particularly longer patterns. 
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bcw1969

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 03:47:09 PM »
All I typically do is play straighter through the heads...I am not adept at moving inside and throwing out towards the edge. I always square up and play down and in.  I do wonder then, are there any of the more "modern" oilers that would do what I normally do better than what I would usually use in those heavy/long or extreme oil environments?

Brad

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 03:58:57 PM »
The new heavy oil monsters are ridiculous strong now days
1st the Hammer scandal, the the Columbia Tyrant
now the new Monster is the Hammer Gauntlet.
I have a decent amount of hand and cant use these, but I would like to know what houses put out enough oil for these...
faster ball speeds and low rev guys love these balls
http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/high-performance/gauntlet

to answer your question, it seems like every few months there is something stronger and over the course of 18-24 months, its night and day difference between then and now



My house puts out a heavier oil THS.  They claim they do it because the bowling balls keep getting stronger and stronger and the house has to protect the lane surface.  Now bowlers are using Gurus, Tyrants, Warriors, Swerves, Scandals, Grudges, Locks, Cruxs, etc. just to have some sort of consistent reaction.

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Re: Are my heavy oilers obsolete?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 05:01:16 PM »
There is something to say for putting out more oil to protect the surface.  Particles were horrible on lanes
  However the modern solids create a lot of friction and dissipate oil so quickly that the surface still takes a lot of wear. 
As for the need for super heavy oil balls I would say 95% are mis used.  So called heavy oilers are totally misused by most bowlers when they try to open up a long pattern.  Better to use a strong cored pearl that will rev up then stay behind it
  You dont need hook to carry,  it is the rev rate that gives you carry on longer patterns.  I always carry a strong solid like the alpha crux but the first thing I do is take it to 4000.  For my game this is the best way to give me strong recovery when iI follow the oil in
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