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devildog819

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Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« on: June 04, 2009, 01:15:45 AM »
In the DC Metro Area, to keep the leagues going, each year we increase the price each bowler pays every week due to lineage increase by the house.  That increase could be a dollar or more in some cases. But why not REDUCE the amount that bowlers pay the secretary and treasure each week.  Lets do the math in a typical league

40 teams x 4 bowlers = 160 bowlers
160 bowlers x 0.30 secretary fee = 48.00/week
48.00/week x 32 weeks = 1536.00

Keep in mind that 30 cents per bowler is considered LOW and we still have to pay the treasurer.   There is nothing in the USBC rules that say you have to pay per bowler per week.  You have the latitude to pay a fixed amount thereby saving the league a good bit of money.  What do you think?

 

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 09:20:51 AM »
That is what you have a league meeting for at the beginning of the season.  It is voted on by the league.  If you feel it is too high then bring up a motion to change it.  If it is passed then you will probably need to find a new person to handle the duties of the current secretary because they will resign on the spot but that is the leagues choice.  If you have never done the job of the secretary you should find out what is involved with it.  a 40 team league is very large and requires a lot of effort outside of the bowling night to keep it going.

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 09:23:17 AM »
That is not bad if you have never been a secretary 40 teams and 5 guys on a team is a ton of work! $48 a week lets say comes out to $16 an hour for 3 hours a week, but there is more work than that with all lineage problems and questions each week and responsibility of taking money to bank each week as well.....I think .30 a week is very reasonable....I have never did a leae bigger than 8 teams though!

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 09:23:41 AM »
Being a league secretary I say "not my league" We pay a sponsors fee of $40.00 per team in a 14 team league and that's what I get
$40 x 14 = $560.00
I am probably the most underpaid secretary in the state of Utah, but I do it more for the enjoyment of helping my fellow bowler
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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 09:26:31 AM »
Keep in mind that 30 cents per bowler is considered LOW and we still have to pay the treasurer. There is nothing in the USBC rules that say you have to pay per bowler per week. You have the latitude to pay a fixed amount thereby saving the league a good bit of money. What do you think?

Why do you pay the Treasurer? What does that person do for his/her money?

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 09:34:57 AM »
I am personally not a secretary, but I am the president of my league and we have 24 teams.  I have a ton of responsibility but I am not not paid but can be suspended of something goes wrong.  I signed 2 checks that was more than 3 thousand paid to the secretary and treasurer.

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 09:52:43 AM »
In most leagues in Va our secretary and treasurer is combined and held by one person.

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 10:02:03 AM »
We split the Secretary/Treasurer and give them a $1500 payment to split.  What ever it works out per person for 20 teams of 4 bowlers.  You don't get a lot of volunteers for Secretary/Treasurer so the little we pay for each bowler is worth it to most of us.




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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 01:01:10 PM »
Ok go out and buy BLS and do a year of secretary work.  You get what you pay for.  The job is not fun or easy.  There are a lot of headaches to go with it.  You have not lived until you have had a really bad secretary.  One year we didn't get our sanction cards until a week after the league ended back in Texas.

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 02:48:13 PM »
That's cheap!!

Going rate around here is $.75 - $1.50/wk/bowler

Our mixed handicap league secretary/tres. took home, tax free, $2500 last winter.  

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 02:54:22 PM »
anyone who complains about fees to the secretary/treasurer should offer to do it for less.  i guarantee after one season, you will never complain again.  i have been doing it for a few years now and i get .50 per bowler per week.  with lineage being what it is here in nocal, i basically get to bowl for free.  i often wonder if it is worth it considering the amount of work one has to do.
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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 03:03:29 PM »
The idiots I bowled with this year in a mixed, fun league voted the Secrtary $.50 per bowler and a separate Treasurer $.50 per bowler.  There were 28 teams of 4 for 32 weeks so they each made $1792.  The first place team in each half was paid $60.00 per bowler.  Needless to say I won't be bowling in this league anymore.  I guess since I didn't do the smart thing and drop out before the league started, I can consider myself as dumb as the rest of the sheep in that league.  Never again.

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 05:45:06 PM »
75 cents to $1.50/bowler/week....that is just plain robbery...

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 05:48:24 PM »
Erin....where are you bowling?.....I cannot believe a league is paying that much...thats ridiculous...

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Re: Are Secretary and Treasures Fees in your league too high?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 08:08:55 PM »
What's ridiculous is that our sec. rarely does awards, you have to bug and bug her to get her averages in  and the house does her stats and banking.  This year, my partner was voted in President.  He offered to do her April 15 averages because they were late and ended up doing about 8 weeks of awards as well.  After compiling his hours doing that, subtracting 1/2 the projected pay due the treasurer part of the fees, he would have earned $100/hr doing the secretary job.  She did do her awards this year, but they were all late and about 1/2 could not be dispensed at the end of league and she had no time to figure out "most improved".  We've both been secretaries so we do know what it entails, but that was back before computer programs (which she doesn't have).  

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