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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: DP3 on December 12, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
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Traditionalists will tell you this, yet Andrew Anderson, a right handed tweener wins PBA player of the year with one of the more "traditional" styles on tour and traditionalists are still silent. E.J. Tackett was runner up... Kamron Doyle, ROY.
The game/future seems ok to me.
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Listen, they got rid of extra holes. The world is our oyster now!!!
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Don't forget Jakob Butturff. That guy is incredible
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2 handers never were hurting the game. High friction environment that that rewards ever higher rev rate while at the same time deteriorating rapidly in the face of these styles is ruining the game.
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The people who are ruining the game are the people saying that this or that is ruining the game. The game is fine. It's just changed. It's never going back to what you liked.
So, if you don't like today's game of 2-handers, nuclear balls and walled shots - quit or shut-up.
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The game has passed me by and lapped me again if Andrew Anderson is a tweener.
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Ah fond memories, it seems like just yesterday when it was the *&*(#&$*% cheating left-hander's ruining the game...
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Don't forget Jakob Butturff. That guy is incredible
My eyes are now bleeding.
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Jakob Buttruff is a freak of nature. That kid's hand is so abnormally thick and strong. Like a bear paw. I love watching him strike all day.
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Jakob Buttruff is a freak of nature. That kid's hand is so abnormally thick and strong. Like a bear paw. I love watching him strike all day.
Your avatar.
That’s how I feel watching him bowl.
He’s good. He’s effective. He’s a winner.
He’s horrible to watch.
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The double jointed wrist and duck waddle but he can repeat all day long. Nice kid from what I hear but hope he has seen Robert Smith's journey to realize just because you can do something physically virtually nobody else can doesn't mean it stays that way for long.
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The double jointed wrist and duck waddle but he can repeat all day long. Nice kid from what I hear but hope he has seen Robert Smith's journey to realize just because you can do something physically virtually nobody else can doesn't mean it stays that way for long.
I get your Smith comparison but after bowling a tournament with Butturff on the pair next to me the whole time it's a different situation.
There's not a ton of effort in his delivery. He's very smooth and can repeat all day long
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The double jointed wrist and duck waddle but he can repeat all day long. Nice kid from what I hear but hope he has seen Robert Smith's journey to realize just because you can do something physically virtually nobody else can doesn't mean it stays that way for long.
X2.
That left wrist is going to develop some serious tendonitis
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Now - Imagine how many two-handers will complain if a helicopter spinner from Hong Kong or Macau or Taipei comes up and takes PoTY on the PBA. :P
I mean after all, a spinner beat a two-hander at the World Cup last year.
BL.
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Robert Smith's injuries were mainly nerve related in his hips and lower back. Fibromyalgia cut his career on tour short, not because he was putting a million revs on it.
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No my point was just more than there is probably some 17yo kid out there right now practicing being able to do what he does or some other funky delivery that gives an advantage may come on the scene (Robert Smith not good example now think about with injuries and such, just more the massive rev rate didn't guarantee dominance long term). From what I hear kid has good head on his shoulders so he will be fine and I hope he keeps winning for years to come being a local guy. My son's favorite bowler and I cheer for him always.
(edit: on second thought first post doesn't really apply because the kid is a stone cold shot maker in addition to his physical gifts, he'll be winning for years to come).
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If anything the kids should be practicing his level of professionalism and maturity. He's been a rock solid guy since a teen. Same with just about every young gun I've met on tour that's killing it. These guys are just great people as a whole.
Bowlers put to much stock in worrying about "how the kids will hurt themselves emulating ____'s game". As long as it's not your kid getting hurt, that's someone else's risk to bear.
The kids are probably way more likely to hurt themselves emulating their friends in their hometown through real life issues like alcoholism and drug use...but completely different topic/argument. I understand your point.
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If anything the kids should be practicing his level of professionalism and maturity. He's been a rock solid guy since a teen. Same with just about every young gun I've met on tour that's killing it. These guys are just great people as a whole.
Bowlers put to much stock in worrying about "how the kids will hurt themselves emulating ____'s game". As long as it's not your kid getting hurt, that's someone else's risk to bear.
The kids are probably way more likely to hurt themselves emulating their friends in their hometown through real life issues like alcoholism and drug use...but completely different topic/argument. I understand your point.
Does sound like the kids on tour today are bit wiser about saving winnings, paying taxes, not doing dumb stuff etc than some of the guys in the past on tour. That is great to see. Pros in every sense of the word.
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If anything the kids should be practicing his level of professionalism and maturity. He's been a rock solid guy since a teen. Same with just about every young gun I've met on tour that's killing it. These guys are just great people as a whole.
Bowlers put to much stock in worrying about "how the kids will hurt themselves emulating ____'s game". As long as it's not your kid getting hurt, that's someone else's risk to bear.
The kids are probably way more likely to hurt themselves emulating their friends in their hometown through real life issues like alcoholism and drug use...but completely different topic/argument. I understand your point.
Does sound like the kids on tour today are bit wiser about saving winnings, paying taxes, not doing dumb stuff etc than some of the guys in the past on tour. That is great to see. Pros in every sense of the word.
That probably has a lot more to do with how little they make compared to the days when bowlers actually made good money.
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I think it has more to do with great older mentors on tour that have passed down knowledge of tour life to these guys. And these millennial/borderline gen-Z'ers being nicer overall, and more socially aware as a whole. These "youngsters" are competing every week with guys they looked up to just 10-15 years ago. A lot easier to be humble.
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I think it has more to do with great older mentors on tour that have passed down knowledge of tour life to these guys. And these millennial/borderline gen-Z'ers being nicer overall, and more socially aware as a whole. These "youngsters" are competing every week with guys they looked up to just 10-15 years ago. A lot easier to be humble.
So bowling is unique from Football/Basketball/Baseball and their young athletes?
Please, the difference is the amount of money.
Money makes stupid people really stupid. There just isn't enough money in professional bowling to survive if you are a screw up, even if you have the talent to compete.
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Now - Imagine how many two-handers will complain if a helicopter spinner from Hong Kong or Macau or Taipei comes up and takes PoTY on the PBA. :P
I mean after all, a spinner beat a two-hander at the World Cup last year.
BL.
I'm eagerly awaiting this.
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Spinners leave too many 5 pins to be POY. Nice to shred racks when we go brooklyn though.
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I want to see an American league hack spinner vs. Taipei spinner match. We need answers to which style strikes the most.
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>> Spinners leave too many 5 pins to be POY. Nice to shred racks when we go brooklyn though.
I'm an American hack spinner and I rarely leave the 5 pin. I do, however, leave the 8-10 split way more than anyone else.
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What is a spinner?
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What is a spinner?
https://youtu.be/EVUED61Lec8
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Anyone ever consider that the people that have hands are ruining the game?
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I dont really know whether the game is being ruined. I do know that from this old timers perspective the 2 handers are no more offensive than the cup wristed open shouldered plant and turn crankers spawned during the urethane era.
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the only people ruining bowling are bowlers. So many of us whine about anyone that has a perceived advantage; and wants them banned.
its like something I saw a long time ago: Rock says paper is cheating and needs to be banned from competition. however the scissors are just fine.
anything that helps participation is good thing; if the choice is to have lots of 2 handers or lots less bowlers, I choose having the 2 handers around.
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Cant disagree. In the end the environment will judge the winners