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TJFreaky24

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Here's something to ponder
« on: May 29, 2004, 06:26:39 PM »
As I looked various ball companies and balls, it seems i've noticed a bit of a trend. I see a lot of balls designed for heavy oil. Around my area, I never see any "true" heavy oil. In the 4 local houses we have, most of the oil runs medium light. I guess what I'm asking is this. Do you guys actually see heavy oil around you? Where I'm at these balls aren't always that neccessary. Very rarely is there a need for a heavy oil ball around here. So do we need all these balls for heavy oil and such, or are the ball manufacturers just trying to flood the market with balls nobody really needs?

 

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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2004, 09:31:46 AM »
I'm not sure why, but most houses I go are only of light-medium oil.
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2004, 09:38:21 AM »
Most of the ones here are light to medium oil, and carry down and dry out very quick.
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2004, 09:46:06 AM »
The easiest house here is a heavy oil house.  There is a ton of oil on the inside of the lane but the outside is wide open.  Always a ton of honor scores shot there every year.  When I first shot there, I took my Phenom Unleashed home and sanded it a little for next time.
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2004, 09:51:02 AM »
even on "heavy" conditions, there is usually an adequate area of dry lane towards the outside for players to get the ball back to the pocket...i havent seen any normal house shot where it was hard to generate hook...even if you have to move a few boards right, thats about the biggest adjustment ive had to make when actually seeing "heavy" oil...but im sure there are houses out there that are pretty flooded.
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2004, 09:56:12 AM »
It is true that many of the balls that companies have out seem to be for heavy oil. The lane conditions are me vary enough that I can use them, and with the proper layout can make a heavy oil ball a medium oil ball.

The problem is not what the ball companies are releasing onto the market. Most of these companies do enough studies before releasing a ball that they know what the bowlers want.

I think a contributing problem is that bowlers do not change coverstocks enough. Meaning for example: The Phenom Unleashed. It is a heavy oil ball for most bowlers out there, but with the proper surface grit and polish it could be used as a medium/light ball. Just because a company releases a ball and puts a particular surface on it does not mean that they are telling you that you have to keep that surface on the ball.
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2004, 09:56:34 AM »
There really are and in tournaments(well).

I think different areas of the country are different.

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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2004, 10:24:02 AM »
Most of the houses I've bowled in around Massachusetts are medium oil shots at best. The summer league that I'm bowling in floods from inside 8 to 8, so there would be use for a heavy oil ball if you wanted to play that line. Otherwise most people swing outside of 8 with medium/heavy, medium and light oil balls and have no trouble scoring.

I think a heavy oil ball has it's place in sport shot/PBA pattern leagues and some tournaments, but most of the shots I see up here I rarely pull out the heavy oil ball.

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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2004, 11:14:37 AM »
For one thing, it is much easier (IMHO) to tame a balls reaction than to increase it, especially once it is drilled. Secondly I have noticed that most higher level players are usually doing just that, in taking the more agressive equipment, and taming it down, by drillings and coverstock prep.

Having just recently watched many top players (including PBA members) bowl in 2 local events, and having the opportunity to throw on those same conditions, I see why. On the PBA pattern C, I was throwing my SonicX pearl, and still having to take some hand out of it.

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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2004, 11:52:03 AM »
The average league bowler wants a "heavy oil" ball because he can make it hook more on his Tuesday night mixed league with out learning the basic release and lane conditions that this ball was really intended to be used on. He can stand left, whing it right, and it'll come flying back for his 3 games a week. He'll throw more strikes, and have some big games, and go home thinking he's accomplished something. Very seldom do I see 'heavy' oil, but the manufactures know that the balls that sell are the ones that advertise to the general public that this ball "hooks", so seeing heavy oil is not the question. Most average league/recreation bowlers want bang for their buck. These are the sellers. Advanced bowlers, and high rev rate bowlers are the ones who want control and tamer balls so they can score on different conditions..but the average "Joe Bowler" is looking for the next big bomb...
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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2004, 12:52:58 PM »
i think they might be making these heavy oil balls for people who are going to be shooting on more difficult pba patterns. However, in my house there are many many tournaments held, and i might decide to bowl while those are going on, and i get caught right as they oil the lanes (for the tournament)

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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2004, 04:22:16 PM »
It seems to me that lately the manufacturers have gone more for really strong reactives than high-load particle balls. That's logical considering that I very seldom run into really long and heavy patterns nowadays. I saw more of those a couple of years ago. Today, most of the tournaments I take part in range from 37 to 40 feet. A strong reactive lasts longer on these patterns.



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Re: Here's something to ponder
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2004, 08:54:28 AM »
I will have to agree, most might have a medium/slight heavy but normally it is a medium to light condition. Even at our state tournament was the same way this year!
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