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Jeffrevs

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Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« on: May 18, 2004, 05:21:22 AM »
NOT INCLUDING a spare ball (plastic)....

Question 1: How many people have more than 4 balls?

Question 2: How many tournaments do you enter ?

Why do I ask?  If you only enter 1,2 and on the outside chance, maybe 3 tourneys a year and have more than 4 balls.....why?  Aside from habit, do you really NEED that many ??

If it's "just to have" , or "just for fun", fine, but do you need them?

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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 08:51:47 PM »
Jeff,

At any given time I can have as many as 20 balls, and as few as 4 or 5. When the number gets up to 20, I know it is definately time to clean out. In no way do I use all them. Primarily I use 4-5 (and that is not even on a regular basis), different surfaces, different layouts.

I do not enter very many tournaments throughout the season, because running the center and a pro shop really presses my time. During the summer I hope to hit from 10-12 tournaments. Even if I bowl that many, I will carry 6-8 (8 being the very most), but probably only use 2-3 of them. FOR ME, having that many with me is a just incase kind of thing. There is nothing more bothersome than going to a tournament getting good reaction, but just not carrying. Usually for me a ball change, playing virtually the same line can be the carry difference I need.

NOW....if I had to face a tournament with 2, I think I would be fine. I am pretty good at hand position changes. SO I can usually make a strong ball weak, just with a weak release. That is not going to happen for me with a weak ball for oil though.

I do not NEED to have that many, but it is good to have options--------as long as those options do not confuse you along the way.
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2004, 08:57:28 PM »
I have 10 balls.  Bowl about 20-25 tournaments a year.  Is that fine Jeff?!?!

On your Typical house shot all you need is three, well thats what I take to leagues on a THS.  Something aggressive to open up the lane, something a step down, and a plastic for spares.  Since I only use tote bags instead of roller I'll throw another ball in to balance the weight from time to time so I'll have 4, but I can't even remember the last time I used or even had to use more than 2 balls in a league setting.
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2004, 10:03:41 PM »
I was bowling at least one tournament a month, but I'm having trouble hitting the head pin on a regular basis, so I'm just sticking to league for now.   According to my profile, I have 13 balls.  Some are speciality balls just for tournaments.  High load particle and pearl urethane just in case.  A few are balls are ones that didn't work out for my style and I haven't got around to selling yet.  Two main balls + the Blue Dot go everywhere.  The 4th gets changed out depending on what house I'm going to.  I'll usually take 6 into a tournament, but may have one or two more in the trunk.  Stuff I don't expect to need, but hate to be caught without.

I have more stuff than I need, but like to try new stuff.  I'm not buying anything until I get my game back in order.  I tried Ron's timing tips, but they haven't helped me so far.  Fortunately, I'll see him soon.  If you don't bowl a lot of tournaments, a traveling league, or pot bowl for real money, I doubt you ever need more than 2-3 balls + a spare ball.
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2004, 10:31:51 PM »
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 I tried Ron's timing tips, but they haven't helped me so far.


Strider, welcome to my world. I've been fighting this problem for the past 6-7 months. The more I try, the worse I get.

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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2004, 10:45:51 PM »
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NOT INCLUDING a spare ball (plastic)....

Question 1: How many people have more than 4 balls?


Me!

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Question 2: How many tournaments do you enter ?


City and state tournament, Lilac City Tournament, Hoinke Classic, ABC Tournament, Detroit and Michigan 600 Club, Michigan 500 Club, Hamtramck Singles Classic... and probably a couple I'm forgetting.

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Why do I ask?  If you only enter 1,2 and on the outside chance, maybe 3 tourneys a year and have more than 4 balls.....why?  Aside from habit, do you really NEED that many ??


I probably don't need that many.  I'm trying to pare my round children down to 8, but it's so hard to do!!  I like the different colors (White Dots, anyone?? lol) and I like different reactions and different brands.  It's $hopping, so it's a chick thing.  There, I said it

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If it's "just to have" , or "just for fun", fine, but do you need them?

Discuss


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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2004, 10:49:10 PM »
I have 7, I use 3 at a time. I'm selling everything except my x-factor, and buying a big blue pearl with the ca$h from them.
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2004, 10:49:16 PM »
I own 6 balls but one is retired (first ball and dead).I enter all tournaments I am able to and hear about. But, there doesnt seem to be too many in my state, atleast for youth bowlers. Maybe I just dont here about them....
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2004, 11:04:01 PM »
I have 3 I only use 1. I use it for strikes and spares. When the lane is flooded ill use my 2nd ball for strikes and spares, I wasted 25 bucks on a spare ball
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2004, 11:37:17 PM »
Currently I own 4 balls, will have a fifth soon. To answer the second question, I bowl 10-12 tournaments a year, with the possibility of more next year as I'm getting my game back up to where I felt it was during college. For typical leagues I only bring 3 balls and I rotate depending upon the shot that I'm bowling on (as I bowl in 2 centers that put out different amounts of oil and different shots altogether). When I'm bowling a tournament, especially in a house that I only see once a year, I bring everything with me. You never know when you will use that ball that never gets used and matches up well for this particular tournament. I had a friend that I went up to VT with for a weekend tournament and he brought 7 balls. The one he averaged 225 with all weekend was his 7th ball, an old Track Hex that he said he hasn't used in 2 years.

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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2004, 11:57:19 PM »
Well the profile list 7.  That doesn't count my spare ball which I don't exactly have right now.  I picked up a new, it will be here friday.

I have a Time Zone I picked up used that has yet to be drilled.  I have a NIB Ravage I will drill next month.  I also picked up an 8 ball but I don't know what I am going to do with it.

The super carbide, sonic x, urethane are mainly tournament balls.  I usually hit 5+ a year.  I used the following this year:

Tuesday:
Inferno or werewolf
Shock Zone
Ignitor (gone)

Friday:
Bruiser (gone)
Inferno
HPD-beginning of the year
Shock Zone
Ignitor
Messenger-end of the year
but the shot never changed, what?

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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2004, 12:07:42 AM »
I have two balls with just one set of holes in them (NIB), and I have 4 that have at least one set of plugs.

I bowl in zero tournaments.  I am fairly new to the game with some disposable income and friends that go through a lot of equipment.  I just like trying out different coverstocks and manufacturers.  At some point, I'll settle on a core group and quit messing with so many, but when most of my used ones are either really cheap or free, what is the harm in carrying a few extras around to see what is out there?  No harm at all!

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Jeffrevs

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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2004, 07:56:54 AM »
WOW! Nice responses! Thanks.........

A lot of tourney's going on here I see! Hmmm....that makes sense then....

DP, yeah, you're good

I've just been thinking ....I like downsizing...I dont' do a lot of tourneys, so why am I always looking to put together a tourney arsenal? Nice to have?? SURE!,  but this 'want'-'need' thing keeps coming into play.

Anyhow...keep 'em coming...

Summer is practice time, and will be 'arsenal fine-tuning' time too..revamp and see what is the most 'functional' ....
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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2004, 09:19:39 AM »
I currently have about 15 balls.  Most of them never see the light of day, but I enjoy experimenting when I have the time and/or money.  

On my league shot, I typically use 2 balls.  A weak pearl reactive and plastic.  Nothing else is necessary.  By the way, the plastic is not just for spares, it often becomes the strike ball by the third game.  

When I travel to tourneys, usually only a couple times a year, I take 6.  Arsenal looks something like this:
Dull particle drilled to arc
polished particle drilled to flip
solid reactive drilled to arc
pearl reactive drilled to flip
urethane just in case
plastic

I could certainly get by with less, but as I said, experimenting with balls and layouts is half the fun.


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Re: Arsenal Size-Reality Question!
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2004, 10:59:29 AM »
I have 3 balls. I use only two of them most of the time, and so far, I've entered only 2 tournaments this year. One ball is for heavy to med oil, and the other is for med to dry.
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