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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: amyers2002 on April 28, 2015, 11:33:53 PM
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I'm trying to decide between the Arson Low Flare and the Tag for my next ball. I currently have a Virtual Gravity Nano and a Asylum but I've started bowling in an older wood house with a lot of friction. I'm not afraid to move my feet and play inside but I feel like the lanes are playing me instead of the other way around.
Stats:
14-15 mph off the hand
Around 300 revs
Pap is 4" 1/2 up
Let me know what you think I've heard great things about both balls
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I am really seeing and hearing great things about the Tag so far. I know a couple guys with multiples using diff layouts and cover. I have seen the Low Flare (not much though) in action and it rolls good as well. Just don't see or hear as much about it, be it cause its older or just wasn't taken to well I don't know.
If you are open to trying a smaller non PBA registered brand give the Seismic Photon LMB a look. This has been a great house shot (lower oil) ball for everyone that has thrown one. It is able to be used down the boards on a fresher house shot (including wood, which I have thrown it on) and still has enough pop to play through the middle on burnt up lanes. Feel free to ask any questions about the brand or ball.
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i have several of the low flares, the advice i was given from one of the staffers was to drill it stronger than normal as its a pretty weak piece. And it was with the factory OBB surface
Once i dulled it up, it was estimated 3-4 boards stronger
i have used factory finish polish on it with great success, very rolly and continuous, i also bought some of the factory "clean n sheen" polish which a matte finish to replicate the factory OBB
either way, i have used it dull, with polish and with factory clean n sheen polish, all 3 ways produced different results
the numbers on the 2 balls are different, the tag would seem to be over/under if this a little volume because of its high grit surface and polish while the low flare is a different concept. has some underlying surface plus polish and a weaker core
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If there is really a lot of friction I'd go with the arson low flare. The Tag is Motiv's new ball that is essentially skid/flip which could put you into some trouble if you'd rather not play too far inside
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If there is really a lot of friction I'd go with the arson low flare. The Tag is Motiv's new ball that is essentially skid/flip which could put you into some trouble if you'd rather not play too far inside
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If there is really a lot of friction I'd go with the arson low flare. The Tag is Motiv's new ball that is essentially skid/flip which could put you into some trouble if you'd rather not play too far inside
4000 fixes this....the ball is very versatile
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In reference to the ALF.. ALF, or ALF Solid?
BL.
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Was leaning toward the solid but I'm willing to listen about the Pearl too.
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I am intrigued by the Low Flare as well, but for you purposes something that is a little more skid flip might be better. Reason, never try to change balls to keep from moving inside. Instead follow the shot, then go to a ball that is effective from the deeper angle.
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ALF Solid is 2.48 with a diff of 0.020
Tag is 2.55 with a diff of 0.037.
If you're looking to chase it in, Tag. If you want to keep from going so left to right, ALF.
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ALF Solid is 2.48 with a diff of 0.020
Tag is 2.55 with a diff of 0.037.
If you're looking to chase it in, Tag. If you want to keep from going so left to right, ALF.
I'm a fan of the ALF Solid because of the amount of control it allows you to have after the lanes have gone straight to crap.
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I am intrigued by the Low Flare as well, but for you purposes something that is a little more skid flip might be better. Reason, never try to change balls to keep from moving inside. Instead follow the shot, then go to a ball that is effective from the deeper angle.
Actually I'm looking at this as a piece to start with then maybe chase the shot inside with some stronger equipment.
ALF Solid is 2.48 with a diff of 0.020
Tag is 2.55 with a diff of 0.037.
If you're looking to chase it in, Tag. If you want to keep from going so left to right, ALF.
I'm a fan of the ALF Solid because of the amount of control it allows you to have after the lanes have gone straight to crap.
That's what I'm looking for. Their is more friction on the outside of these lanes than anywhere I've ever bowled. I'm fine anywhere between the 10 board and the 18th board normally but here I have to start on 15 and I'm at 18 by the middle of the second game with my current equipment.
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i recently was at a tournament where we did a double shift
little oil to start and 2nd shift normally calls for 5th arrow or more, then lofting
i took my pin down low flare, 4000+ polish.
started out 2nd shift at 17 and never got much farther than 20-21
the low flare got through the dry heads and was even and arcing
carried quite well, 1st 600 series i ever had on that crappy shot
had a 9 bagger at one point, ended up 648 at + in the brackets
i couldnt have used anything that was skid flippy at all, shot was flatter and tough
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I decided on the Arson Low Flare Solid. Ordered last night now just have to wait until Tuesday :'(. I'll update with the drilling and how it rolls for me. Thanks all of you who responded.
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I think that is a great choice for your strategy. Going clear back to polyester days many people didn't understand that you started with weaker stuff when you could stay out, then went stronger as you went deeper. Worst thing in bowling people can do is try to go weaker to avoid moving. Here is the reason. Once the oil goes, the coefficient of friction between ball and lane is almost as high with a tame shell as a stronger shell. You have to find the head oil
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Yes definitely let us know how it rolls. I was thinking about the low flare solid ball also to be the ball under my BW assassin. The pro shop guy told me that it would only be a little weaker in the dry but i'm not sure how that could be. Plus I could always take it up to 2000 or 4000 if it was. I think you made a good choice hopefully it works out for you.