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Title: Average
Post by: SjuStorm on May 26, 2008, 07:09:27 AM: Just browsing through league secretary and some of the high averages. Ian Lang of New York averaged 254 for 102 games. Anyone know of anything higher so far this season?

2 9/13/2007 0 268 W 279 W 228 L 775 775 5 244 246 258 14
3 9/20/2007 0 266 W 279 W 258 L 803 803 12 246 249 267 21
4 9/27/2007 0 279 W 236 W 243 W 758 758 3 249 250 252 3
5 10/4/2007 0 279 W 227 L 279 W 785 785 8 250 253 261 11
6 10/11/2007 0 198 L 279 W 238 L 715 715 4 253 252 238 -15
7 10/18/2007 0 245 L 279 W 237 L 761 761 10 252 253 253 1
8 10/25/2007 0 279 W 299 W 290 W 868 868 14 253 260 289 36
9 11/1/2007 0 234 L 268 L 279 W 781 781 15 260 260 260 0
10 11/8/2007 0 275 L 290 W 227 L 792 792 18 260 260 264 4
11 11/15/2007 0 237 W 279 W 279 W 795 795 5 260 261 265 5
12 11/29/2007 0 211 L 220 L 300 W 731 731 7 261 259 243 -18
13 12/6/2007 0 237 W 219 L 258 L 714 714 23 259 257 238 -21
14 12/13/2007 0 280 W 268 W 258 W 806 806 19 257 258 268 11
15 12/20/2007 0 267 L 236 L 246 L 749 749 21 258 257 249 -9
16 12/27/2007 0 258 W 210 L 227 L 695 695 29 257 256 231 -26
17 1/3/2008 0 288 W 237 W 239 L 764 764 26 256 256 254 -2
18 1/10/2008 0 249 L 278 W 279 W 806 806 16 256 256 268 12
19 1/17/2008 0 248 L 279 W 236 L 763 763 11 256 256 254 -2
20 1/24/2008 0 245 L 239 L 254 W 738 738 27 256 256 246 -10
21 1/31/2008 0 257 L 258 W 222 L 737 737 16 256 255 245 -11
22 2/7/2008 0 269 W 241 W 244 W 754 754 20 255 255 251 -4
23 2/14/2008 0 203 L 266 L 300 W 769 769 21 255 255 256 1
25 2/28/2008 0 299 W 277 W 265 L 841 841 25 255 256 280 25
26 3/6/2008 0 243 W 248 L 228 L 719 719 30 256 255 239 -17
27 3/13/2008 0 245 L 267 L 239 L 751 751 13 255 255 250 -5
28 3/20/2008 0 238 L 279 L 214 L 731 731 7 255 255 243 -12
29 3/27/2008 0 269 L 248 L 300 W 817 817 4 255 255 272 17
30 4/3/2008 0 236 T 232 W 245 W 713 713 4 255 255 237 -18
31 4/10/2008 0 227 L 278 W 243 L 748 748 6 255 254 249 -6
32 4/17/2008 0 236 W 279 W 265 L 780 780 22 254 255 260 6
33 4/24/2008 0 267 L 258 L 246 T 771 771 9 255 255 257 2
34 5/1/2008 0 258 W 227 L 300 W 785 785 24 255 255 261 6
35 5/8/2008 0 234 W 222 W 189 L 645 645 24 255 254 215 -40
36 5/15/2008 0 238 W 258 L 259 L 755 755 22 254 254 251 -3
Average by Game: 252 257 253 Next Weeks Avg: 254

Edited on 5/26/2008 3:09 PM
Title: Re: Average
Post by: on May 26, 2008, 03:28:22 PM: I once averaged 254 for two games... That's a bunch of strikes every night!

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: mikeywg on May 26, 2008, 03:35:28 PM: Only 2 sets under 700. 12 honor scores in 1 league. thats just amazing.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: SVstar34 on May 26, 2008, 04:12:42 PM: WOW is all I can say
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Foppe on May 26, 2008, 04:22:10 PM: quote:
WOW is all I can say

I second that opinion... And a 868 set...

Amazing performance
Title: Re: Average
Post by: abrown on May 26, 2008, 04:25:10 PM: that is impressive but with a average like that you wonder how he does in other houses or why he's not out on tour. ive seen bowlers that can average 230+ at there own spot but you take them a town over and they cant hold a 200. not saying anything against that guy he may be a future pba champ im not doubting his ability i dont care what kind of shot you have to average that you got to hit the same spot
Title: Re: Average
Post by: azus on May 26, 2008, 04:59:03 PM: quote:
that is impressive but with a average like that you wonder how he does in other houses or why he's not out on tour. ive seen bowlers that can average 230+ at there own spot but you take them a town over and they cant hold a 200. not saying anything against that guy he may be a future pba champ im not doubting his ability i dont care what kind of shot you have to average that you got to hit the same spot

Didnt Jeff Carter avg around 260+ before he went on the pba tour?
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: abrown on May 26, 2008, 05:03:25 PM: yeah he did but like i said the guy may be the next be pba star
Title: Re: Average
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 26, 2008, 05:35:45 PM: quote:
that is impressive but with a average like that you wonder how he does in other houses or why he's not out on tour. ive seen bowlers that can average 230+ at there own spot but you take them a town over and they cant hold a 200. not saying anything against that guy he may be a future pba champ im not doubting his ability i dont care what kind of shot you have to average that you got to hit the same spot

If you take a look at his stats on bowl.com, you will notice that he has averaged ridiculously high at a few houses in his area for quite a few years now.

With steady high scores like his, I doubt very much he can't adapt to any old house and to whatever condition. For one thing, he must be one absolute top notch spare shooter, for another, he more than likely gets his "fair" share of strikes.

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 26, 2008, 06:06:10 PM: Crown,

I hear ya, but to consistently shoot averages ranging from the 240's to mid 250's, in addition to carrying everything, which is usually a by-product of "friendly" houses when they host powerfully rolled bowling balls, he's gotta be a much better than your average high-average bowler, as far as spare shooting is concerned.

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Hogsharley on May 26, 2008, 06:09:38 PM: Ian is a very good talent. He just won a local tourney (the guy on the right is BR member J dubs) > http://www.oldschooltournaments.com/20080504.htm

helped set a state team record > http://www.liusbc.com/HIGH%20TEAM%20SCORE.pdf

and had enough honors scores in one year than most bowlers have in a lifetime.

300 game 0,0,300,0 USBC 5/1/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
300 game 0,300,0,0 USBC 4/30/2008 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 287,246,269,802 USBC 4/9/2008 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
300 game 0,0,300,0 USBC 3/27/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 269,248,300,817 USBC 3/27/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 0,299,0,0 USBC 3/13/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
300 game 0,300,0,0 USBC 3/5/2008 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 299,277,265,841 USBC 2/28/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 299,0,0,0 USBC 2/28/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
300 game 0,0,300,0 USBC 2/14/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 0,299,0,0 USBC 1/31/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 279,299,279,857 USBC 1/31/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 249,278,279,806 USBC 1/10/2008 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 280,268,258,806 USBC 12/13/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 279,278,268,825 USBC 12/5/2007 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
300 game 0,0,300,0 USBC 11/29/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 267,288,288,843 USBC 11/14/2007 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 0,290,0,0 USBC 11/8/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 275,245,289,809 USBC 10/30/2007 Baldwin Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 0,0,290,0 USBC 10/25/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
11 strikes in a row 0,299,0,0 USBC 10/25/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 279,299,290,868 USBC 10/25/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC
800 series 266,279,258,803 USBC 9/20/2007 North Levittown Lanes
Long Island USBC

As you can see, N levittown does have an easy shot. He may be the best non PBA member in the northeast.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 26, 2008, 06:35:41 PM: quote:
i know, i'm not trying to knock the guy. obviously he can bowl, just pointing out the fact that most of the centers he's bowling at have enough area to roll bricks and find the hole.

When you're really good, you can make any ole house look this way.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Langadoo on May 26, 2008, 07:22:07 PM: Of course the leagues that I bowl in are extremely high. Sad to say, but that's how it is in every house on Long Island. I bowl everything that I possibly can where the tournaments are fairly local. There are a couple organizations on Long Island that run or had ran tournaments with competitive shots for us to get better. I've bowled the World Team Challenges(highest finish 2nd) religiously when they were around and they were great, as well as the High Rollers(6th round), USBC's(5th in Team) etc. Personally I just bowl on what they put out and whatever happens, happens.

About the 254, I'm just glad the seson is finally over. There were a bunch of weeks that I just wanted to shoot 450 and end the whole thing. The constant comments when you don't strike on a single ball actually starts to eat at you. Believe it or not when you hear those things all the time you actually do get pissed when you don't strike. I remember Jeff Carter writing somewhere that it was the worst thing that he could have done for bowling. I personally know my limits and know that I have alotttttt of things to work on. This is why I'm bowling a PBA experience league this summer, so I can see what my flaws are and what I need to work on to get better.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: The SuperHitMan on May 26, 2008, 07:24:01 PM: WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallShot!

I wish I had it that easy

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: MI 2 AZ on May 26, 2008, 07:36:36 PM: Ian, Congratulations on some really great bowling.

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Langadoo on May 26, 2008, 08:17:20 PM: Sheridan is running one on Tuesday nights. I know about the one at Farmingdale. It's a great league they run, but the approaches are a disaster. I bowled there a bunch of times and my knee feels like its gonna fall off everytime I go there.

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what house is running PBA experience out there? i'm bowling one this summer at Maple Lanes here in Brooklyn.

also, since you're in Nassau, you might look into Farmingdale if you want something that isn't an utter joke. if you feel like traveling, Coram puts out a bit of a different shot. i've heard people say Farmingdale is harder than Coram, but i don't know about that.

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Of course the leagues that I bowl in are extremely high. Sad to say, but that's how it is in every house on Long Island. I bowl everything that I possibly can where the tournaments are fairly local. There are a couple organizations on Long Island that run or had ran tournaments with competitive shots for us to get better. I've bowled the World Team Challenges(highest finish 2nd) religiously when they were around and they were great, as well as the High Rollers(6th round), USBC's(5th in Team) etc. Personally I just bowl on what they put out and whatever happens, happens.

About the 254, I'm just glad the seson is finally over. There were a bunch of weeks that I just wanted to shoot 450 and end the whole thing. The constant comments when you don't strike on a single ball actually starts to eat at you. Believe it or not when you hear those things all the time you actually do get pissed when you don't strike. I remember Jeff Carter writing somewhere that it was the worst thing that he could have done for bowling. I personally know my limits and know that I have alotttttt of things to work on. This is why I'm bowling a PBA experience league this summer, so I can see what my flaws are and what I need to work on to get better.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: tenpin477 on May 26, 2008, 08:54:29 PM: Yeah I was at Farmingdale for a LIYBT recently on the Viper, and the approaches were sticky as hell. I almost fell flat on my face the first few shots.
Title: Re: Average
Post by: CharlieBrown on May 27, 2008, 09:44:47 AM: Congrats Ian, whatever the shot, it's a great achivement. Well done!
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 27, 2008, 09:56:35 AM: quote:
Congrats Ian, whatever the shot, it's a great achivement. Well done!
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I second that.

Bowling at such a high level does have its distractions as you mentioned (I've been in the 240's a few times, so I know about the comments that people make, especially if you're not on any string of strikes for say, half a game or so).

What you've done is monumental, regardless of the shot.

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The nay Sayers (those that say WALL, etc., as if they're not bowling on such a shot themselves), wish they could come close to what you've accomplished

Way to go Ian!

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Hogsharley on May 27, 2008, 10:13:44 AM: Great bowling Ian. Did the 4 man team state record get reconized?
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on May 27, 2008, 11:44:44 AM: Actually all anyone would have needed to do was check Ian's profile. 3 time collegiate all american and player of the year runner up at st. johns when they were one of the main teams (not that they're not good now, just not compared to when Ian was there). If I remember correctly I believe he's bowled in quite a few PBA tournaments. Is that a crazy high average for a season? Of course it is but he's still one of the better bowlers you'll find.
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Title: Re: Average
Post by: Langadoo on May 28, 2008, 07:00:46 AM: From what they told me the 1157 was the new USBC national record and also a World record by 2 pins. They said they had to wait until the season was over to make any annoucement or official record.

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: justdale on May 28, 2008, 08:29:41 AM: what no talk of your 160 last game

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I once averaged 254 for two games... That's a bunch of strikes every night!

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Title: Re: Average
Post by: dogman666 on May 28, 2008, 08:40:58 AM: How tall are you Ian? I'm thinking at least 6'4".