Author Topic: Aversion to Wrist Braces (Read 4027 times)

Gazoo · « **on:** February 13, 2009, 04:20:17 AM »

Why such a dislike of wrist braces on this site? Earl Anthony voted greatest bowler of all time seemed to see a benefit from using one. If one doesn't want to use one that's fine, but why the constant "get rid of the brace" recommendation to someone who is using one? Saying it's just a crutch doesn't seem to fly when someone like EA with all those titles saw benefit to using one. Just bored on a Friday afternoon!
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Kid Jete · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:29:57 PM »

It's mainly because the idiots that bash them around here have been beat by someone that used one at one point or another and they use that as an excuse. There's absolutely nothing wrong with them. I used to use one and it was the best thing I ever did. It taught me to stay behind the ball and the keep a firm wrist both of which I just couldn't seem to get the feel for. I used mine for probably 3-4 years and jst this year got out of it with great results. I don't bowl often enough otherwise I probably could have used it for 4-5 months and got the same result. Let's not forgot those that have wrist issues too, a brace can be the difference between bowling and sitting at home.

strikealot · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:45:24 PM »

I recently used one after never using one and had great success, I personally don't care if some uses a brace or not... But to each his own
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JessN16 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:03:26 PM »

I would prefer to go without because I can do more with adjustments on the fly.

However, I'm not a pro bowler. I do something else for a living, and I get substantial wrist pain sometimes from bowling (due to an unrelated, very old injury). So right now I'm using one about half the time. I always warm up with it and typically shoot the first game with it at least, and this allows me to be pain-free the next day.

At the same time, I have no problems with anyone who wears one all the time. I know it's controversial to some and while I can see their argument, the fact is those things allow people to enjoy bowling who otherwise could not, or at least not as well -- and if they automatically guaranteed success, there would be 64 pros wearing them every week instead of just one (Scroggins). If anything, I think that proves they aren't the advantage a lot of their detractors claim them to be.

For those who still want to gripe even at the bowlers who use them to help alleviate pain, I'll make the following deal with any of them, but I've yet to have anyone take me up on it: I'll ditch the brace forever if you'll put your bowling wrist on top of an anvil and let me hit it with a sledgehammer.

Jess

« **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:52:26 PM »

Sometimes I use one when things seem too "sloppy", but I usually try to go without as a first option. I always seem to do well with it on... Just a preference, though.

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jbuzz31 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:57:42 PM »

i used to use a robbys revs then stopped using it for about a year. but recently my wrist has been hurting a little so i picked up one of the storm neoprene ones that is basically like a sweat band on roids lol. it helps a lot. not very stiff allows alot of movement but helps keep my wrist warm and loose between shots. which i can def tell the difference after the end night.
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neverbackdown_x7x · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2009, 03:07:43 PM »

I've been using a wrist support almost every year within the last 15 years and do quite well with it just as much without it. I type on a computer at work all day so my wrist does get sore at times, so that's why I juse one. To me, a bowler can be good with or without one and I don't have a problem with that.

Gazoo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

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I would prefer to go without because I can do more with adjustments on the fly.

However, I'm not a pro bowler. I do something else for a living, and I get substantial wrist pain sometimes from bowling (due to an unrelated, very old injury). So right now I'm using one about half the time. I always warm up with it and typically shoot the first game with it at least, and this allows me to be pain-free the next day.

At the same time, I have no problems with anyone who wears one all the time. I know it's controversial to some and while I can see their argument, the fact is those things allow people to enjoy bowling who otherwise could not, or at least not as well -- and if they automatically guaranteed success, there would be 64 pros wearing them every week instead of just one (Scroggins). If anything, I think that proves they aren't the advantage a lot of their detractors claim them to be.

For those who still want to gripe even at the bowlers who use them to help alleviate pain, I'll make the following deal with any of them, but I've yet to have anyone take me up on it: I'll ditch the brace forever if you'll put your bowling wrist on top of an anvil and let me hit it with a sledgehammer.

Jess

"controversial" "advantage"

My question is why and who cares. Is it that a bowler who has the natural ability to impart revs on a ball complains that a bowler using a brace that helps increase their revs is not fair. What about a basic brace like a Robby's that just gives support. Just trying to understand the complaints against them by bowlers who don't use them and not so much why bowlers who do use them.
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jd1319 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2009, 04:16:36 PM »

I never understood why people feel the way they do about braces, yet they'll swap tape out between shots, change balls 3 or 4 times a night, use tape on their thumbs to help their release, etc... But the brace has a stigma. Personally, I don't give a rats @$$. I have always used one, and probably always will. Still, for whatever reason, people act like it's less manly to use one. If it was good enough for Earl, the hell with everybody's opinion.

JessN16 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2009, 04:37:29 PM »

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"controversial" "advantage"

My question is why and who cares. Is it that a bowler who has the natural ability to impart revs on a ball complains that a bowler using a brace that helps increase their revs is not fair. What about a basic brace like a Robby's that just gives support. Just trying to understand the complaints against them by bowlers who don't use them and not so much why bowlers who do use them.
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I agree with you. As to the complaints, I know a lot of pros loathe the things.

Mike Machuga contends it makes bowling the only sport in which it is legal to use a device to help a person deliver a ball/impart whatever it is that makes that sport what it is. We were talking about it after a pro am and he specifically mentioned golf (i.e., the training aids and grip aids that aren't legal for USGA/PGA competition).

I didn't at the time because I didn't think of it, but I think he missed one sport: football. Pads and helmets aren't just protection, they allow defenders to impart great force in a tackle without having to worry about injury. A brace helps a bowler impart great force without worrying about injury, too.

I've seen Ritchie Allen, I think it was, debate Mike Scroggins about it on the PBA.com forums. And a few crankers, young and old, I've talked to don't like them because to them, it allows "lesser" bowlers to compete against them.

The point of my earlier post was that if was such an automatic advantage, everyone would wear one, and they don't. I think it's much ado about nothing.

Jess

« **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2009, 05:30:35 PM »

I believe that the wrong brace adjusted too far will hurt someone's revs more than it helps.

Have you ever seen the guy whose "bionic" brace is cupped so far under that he cannot clear the thumb to save his life? He "tops" the ball over and over and wonders why his ball is no good in oil?

In order to clear the thumb quickly one has to "uncup" the wrist until the thumb is cleared, THEN get back under the ball and impart the revs. Maybe described better as a "un-hinging and hinging" of the wrist. It's a split-second movement that takes practice and relaxation.

Revolutions are imparted AFTER the ball is off the thumb, not while the poor thumb is "locked" in the thumb hole. Just my .02.

On edit, I knew someone could explain it better!

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Gazoo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:55:34 PM »

JessN16,
So end the end it comes down to rev rate as to why the complaint against them exist, but as far as I can see, rev rate has little to do with scoring or winning games. I personally use a basic Robbys brace for support in my older age, and believe me no extra revs!
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JessN16 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:24:00 PM »

quote:
JessN16,
So end the end it comes down to rev rate as to why the complaint against them exist, but as far as I can see, rev rate has little to do with scoring or winning games. I personally use a basic Robbys brace for support in my older age, and believe me no extra revs!
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Edited on 2/13/2009 7:58 PM

I think there are multiple complaints. Allen's seemed to be concerned with it taking a variable out of the equation. I think I remember him telling Scroggins that when Scroggins made a mistake, it was usually with his feet/lower body, whereas a non-brace-user could also make mistakes at the wrist, etc.

Either way, I'll always keep one in the bag and will probably be back to using it full-time later in life. I also have a Robbys, the Revs I.

Jess

JessN16 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:25:31 PM »

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I believe that the wrong brace adjusted too far will hurt someone's revs more than it helps.

I know this is true for me. My revs go up when the brace comes off. It doesn't matter what "cup level" I have mine adjusted to, either. It prevents me from being able to snap through the release. Of course, it also saves my wrist tendons for the same reason. (g)

Jess

Leonidas · « **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:32:58 PM »

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It's mainly because the idiots that bash them around here have been beat by someone that used one at one point or another and they use that as an excuse.

Maybe i am one of the idiots and yes in some games i have lost, i lost to opponents with a brace. Also some of the games i won i did against bowlers with a wrist brace. So why dont tell everybody else use a brace (so i can win) or buy myself one (so i can be better)?
I don't hate braces but a cant give to someone a advice against my experience. So going back to the point:
1. Every bowler i know was getting better after getting rid of his brace.
2. Dont now many bowlers with the class of Earl Anthony (i dont even know him just see view videos) so i cant compare him in any way to the average bowler.
3. A medical issue should be fixed by some specialist. In this case it should be someone more like a m.d. not a pro shop operator.
4. Topping the ball, graping and forced swing are common habits of players using braces. Also they suffer from the fact they cant clear their thumb, at least the bowlers i know.

Keeping this in mind i someone is struggling asking for help without giving any other facts i would suggest to "get rid of this brace" and start feel what is wrong.
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