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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: cheech on March 19, 2009, 06:07:24 AM
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so i was open bowling the other day with my friend. there was a league that was next to us but a full pair was between my pair and the league. my friend is interested in getting better so after we warmed up we were going to do come swing drills. we went up on the right lane (the league is on our right). i proceed to tell him "put your weight on your non sliding foot with the ball at you side." all of a sudden i hear HEEELLLOOOOOOOOOOOO. HELLOOOOOOOOO. i turn around, its this middle age bowler yelling at me to get off the approach so he could bowl. i watch him throw a ball and just laugh. the guy was just an aweful league bowler that chucks it up 10. i guess he needs 3 lanes of courtesy to throw a shot. what more funny is that the league is only allowed 1 lane courtesy so the employee intentionally set up open bowlers on the lane next to us (so there is still one lane between them and the league) just to screw with the guy. it provided entertainment to say the least.
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HG:300x2(SR300 both)
HS:792(SR300)
2004 NYSPHSAA team champions
2007 NYSPHSAA individual high game(300) and series(1411-6 games)
arsenal: sauce rival arch rival dead flush blue vibe scout jazz SR300 plastic
sacred heart university bowling, frosh.
greatest accomplishment:shooting 603 and not shooting one 200 game(130,173,300)...lol
p.s. go leftys
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It is very funny how there are so many league bowlers who want everyone stop so they can bowl . Been dealing with this for some time as well. We bowled last night on are mixed league and every bowler wanted 3 lanes on right and 3 on lefted before they bowled . So instead of it taking few hours to bowl league 3 games it turned into 3 1/2 hours . When will people realize that 1 lane to right and left is what should be done.
We had same problem with a tourenment this weekend . Guys got all pissed because bowler had front 9 and no one noticed. Had to make big scene because he only got 1 lane and choked.
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I was practicing one day and there was only one other person there bowling.
There was 12 lanes between us and after a while he came over to me a complained because I got up to bowl the same time he did. told me to stop it. I looked at him told him sorry forget it, ill bowl when im ready, there wasn't 20 lane courtesy.told him go back to his lane.
after awhile he threw his balls in his bag and yelled he was never coming back to this house.
I waved bye-bye and kept bowling.
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A few years ago at the Nationals, we were at least 8 lanes away from a big dog from the midwest. He had the front four and was starting his setup routine when one of my team mates stepped up to throw his shot. The big dog slammed his ball back down on the ball return and glared at my friend. The big dog then proceeded to leave a 4-9 on i guess a pocket hit. You can imagine his reaction. Thought the whole incident was very funny. Even though the tournament officials asked for one lane courtesy, they must have meant that it applied only to us little dogs.
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I was practicing one day and there was only one other person there bowling.
There was 12 lanes between us and after a while he came over to me a complained because I got up to bowl the same time he did. told me to stop it. I looked at him told him sorry forget it, ill bowl when im ready, there wasn't 20 lane courtesy.told him go back to his lane.
after awhile he threw his balls in his bag and yelled he was never coming back to this house.
I waved bye-bye and kept bowling.
I had some dude get all bent out of shape at me because he had the front seven during league and I had the nerve to speak to him. Hell, I didn't notice he got a whoppin' seven in a row. He was so hostile after he missed on eight that I really thought I was gonna have to kick his butt to get him to cool it.
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I had some dude get all bent out of shape at me because he had the front seven during league and I had the nerve to speak to him.
I prefer people to not tell me how many strikes I have going in a string. I bowl better when I don't know. I particularly dislike when the house goes quiet and only then does it dawn on me that I have a long string going. More often then not in either case I end up psyching myself out and leaving a ten pin (or worse). But hey, I don't go ballistic either, just kick myself and vow to work on my mental game.
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I had some grossly fat woman who averaged a whopping 140 in her league complain that I was interfering with her league play while I was practicing. Granted I was on the pair immediately adjacent to this person, but I've never given 2 lane courtesy to a league. I was on my left lane, she on her right lane, so there were 2 lanes between us. Somehow she believed me to be a distraction to her and let me know it. I told her the following, verbatim as you see it:
"Ma'am, I understand more about lane courtesy than you will ever know."
She glared at me for a second and then sat down. My belief is that she just bonked a shot and needed a scapegoat. I just happened to be the easiest target within range.
Seriously. If one truly wants to learn to get over lane courtesy issues, (s)he merely needs to bowl during Cosmic bowling or on a busy Saturday when there are a lot of kids in the center.
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If one truly wants to learn to get over lane courtesy issues, (s)he merely needs to bowl during Cosmic bowling or on a busy Saturday when there are a lot of kids in the center.
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This actually works pretty well. You are lucky to get any lane courtesy at all during these events. Does wonders for improving concentration. I try to do it a few times every year. Besides...it's fun to go bowling with some of your "non-bowler" friends once in a while.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
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I've only bowled in 1 league in my life and practiced at 3 houses, so I'm no expert. But in my league and every time I've bowled, everyone just gives 1 lane courtesy. It seems to work fine.
The only thing I worry about is running in to someone. 1 lane solves that. The alley is full of raucous beer drinkers when I play. There are a lot more distractions than what the guy 2 lanes over is doing.
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If one truly wants to learn to get over lane courtesy issues, (s)he merely needs to bowl during Cosmic bowling or on a busy Saturday when there are a lot of kids in the center.
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ScolaÃ
This actually works pretty well. You are lucky to get any lane courtesy at all during these events. Does wonders for improving concentration. I try to do it a few times every year. Besides...it's fun to go bowling with some of your "non-bowler" friends once in a while.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
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I am so thankful for the house I grew up in. Here's what it had in it:
1) Above-ground ball returns. Nothing like targeting the breakpoint and then here comes a ball flying right at you.
2) A juke box with one AM radio-quality speaker that played constantly, even in league, with the default song being a live recording of Chuck Berry singing "My Ding-A-Ling" at a concert in Japan. (Starts off with him yelling into the microphone, "What song is it you wanna hear?" and has a verse sung back to him by the crowd. Plus he was stoned off his a** at the time.) Second most-played song was the long version of Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart," and if the owner's sister was running the control counter, Chris DeBurgh's "Lady in Red."
3) Projector-style telescores, about half of them missing their retainer clips. So if you were standing within eyeshot of the screens, you could periodically see the sheets slipping off and then these huge dark hands trying to reposition them.
4) 10 lanes in the house, absolutely NONE of them with working kickbars. Meaning, you have to manually reset the lanes after every shot. At least I never got a fast rack sweep...
5) When practicing in said house, no lane courtesy. Kids all in my lane and approach. I posted a shot at the foul line once and got rolled from behind by a 12-year old who was running out a shot, tripped over the above-ground return and clipped me like a defensive back on a punt return.
Jess
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See, in my league at least, we use 2-lane courtesy. There is this one old mope who looks like he's about a thousand, who just grabs his ball off the rack without looking in ANY direction other than forwards, and walks out in front of everyone.
That's my money league. The vacation league that I sub for on Sunday nights is another story. There's an ENTIRE TEAM, all family, and NOT ONE of them has any courtesy whatsoever. I subbed in this league for the first time Sunday night, and had the entire team run up on me at least twice. If it happens this week, I'm saying something.
To the OP - I would've told the mook to shut his mouth and go back to tossing his ball in the ditch, he had his two lanes.
My buddy had the front 10 and and 80 year old guy we were bowling against got up and threw 2 shots that caused my buddy to have to wait inbetween the 10th and 11th strike lol. It all ended well because he threw the last 2 dead flush but that 80 year old might have died a couple years early if that 11th didn't go lol.
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To the OP - I would've told the mook to shut his mouth and go back to tossing his ball in the ditch, he had his two lanes.
i almost did. i almost went over and asked what the problem was and after he told me i would have been like"if your mental game is so bad that you require more than 2 lanes of courtesy then i suggest you work on that a little more." or spend more time working on getting better instead of bashing me on a small issue such as over sized lane courtesy
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HG:300x2(SR300 both)
HS:792(SR300)
2004 NYSPHSAA team champions
2007 NYSPHSAA individual high game(300) and series(1411-6 games)
arsenal: sauce rival arch rival dead flush blue vibe scout jazz SR300 plastic
sacred heart university bowling, frosh.
greatest accomplishment:shooting 603 and not shooting one 200 game(130,173,300)...lol
p.s. go leftys
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In league play 1 lane is, and should be the norm. In tournaments and the more competitive environments, it should be 2 lanes. Thats my biggest pet peeve, people that don't understand lane courtesy
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USBC Open Chanpoinships give 1 lane courtesy, so should all other tournaments except PBA events. Why should some local scratch tourney give 2 lanes when the biggest tourney in the World gives 1?
Like someone said, if you need more than that, you need to work on your concentration.
Personally If you are up right next to me I have no idea.
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At tourenments we only give 1 lane and in league most league bowler want what seems like 12 lanes. Its twisted and people will never understand it. If 1 person waits for 2 lanes lefted and right you will never finish league in a reasonable amount of time. 1 lane is all anyone ever needs . Most of the time lane courtesy is just a reason for someone to complain and blame when they choke
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In league play 1 lane is, and should be the norm. In tournaments and the more competitive environments, it should be 2 lanes. Thats my biggest pet peeve, people that don't understand lane courtesy
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what more funny is that the league is only allowed 1 lane courtesy so the employee intentionally set up open bowlers on the lane next to us (so there is still one lane between them and the league) just to screw with the guy. it provided entertainment to say the least.
So the house employee intentionally pi$$ed off a league member for your amusement.
Nice way to teach courtesy.
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It's all about the X
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What bothers me even worse than knucklehead wanting more than a lane's worth of courtesy, is those wanting all that courtesy and THEN taking ridiculous amounts of time to take the d@mned shot...I've had more than one debate with slow people who complain to me about giving them only one lane courtesy, and my reply is always that part of lane courtesy is taking you turn within a reasonable amount of time...
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No one should be given a 2 lane courtesy. A 2 lane courtesy is why it takes 4 hours to bowl 3 games in a quads league.
The PBA doesn't even give 2 lane courtesy, they give a one pair courtesy which is a bit different.
If you can't throw your ball unless someone is 2 lanes away you don't deserve to bowl.
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exactly my point. Something we have been running into latley
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Anyone that needs 3 lanes courtesy sucks. Pretty simple.
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I agree. I'm sick of people who can't even average 160 thinking they need like, 13 lanes.
I'm equally as sick of the people that average 200 on their china shot and think they have the right to jump up on you just because they think they're the hottest thing since sliced bread.
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I'm all for one lane the rest comes down to you and focus.
I will wait sometimes because there are just certain people you can't bowl next to while they are up there. Like guy that lofts the ball 15' feet down the lane.
Or about 3-4 weeks ago when I bowled city tournament one pair to the left of us was a women that bowled with a short 2-step approach. So anytime she was on the right lane I would wait an extra 20 secs for her to go. Which worked great cause I shot 300-809. (just wasn't use to seeing her, it was different)
On my regular league we have a team with two people in wheel chairs and I can have one lane all day because I'm use to it.
As far as someone with the front 9 or finishing a shot at 800 I prefer to give them at least 2 lanes. Plus I want to see them shoot it and not be the donkey up there going step for step with them if they miss.
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Edited on 3/20/2009 6:19 PM
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I do not know how you can bowl in league or a tournament and NOT know what your score, string, possible total and how that affects the team and its chance of winning!
At the very least, wouldn't you analyze your shots, learning from them if they are flush, light, high or whatever?
quote]I had some dude get all bent out of shape at me because he had the front seven during league and I had the nerve to speak to him.[/quote]I prefer people to not tell me how many strikes I have going in a string. I bowl better when I don't know. I particularly dislike when the house goes quiet and only then does it dawn on me that I have a long string going. More often then not in either case I end up psyching myself out and leaving a ten pin (or worse). But hey, I don't go ballistic either, just kick myself and vow to work on my mental game.[/quote]
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um wow is all I would have to say. I think I would tell him to take a hike. Of course that would depend how he said it. If he said it politely, I would ask him why he thinks he is in a PBA tournament. If it was meant to be rude I may take a more vulgar approach. I really don't know what I would do. It wouldn't be my first confrontation with someone during league so I wouldn't be totally afraid. Wow.
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we had a good competitive friday night league for years at an AMF center.... i bowled in the league for 4 years and ever year it got smaller and smaller..AMF pretty much ran it down..(bad shot,dirty pits counters etc etc, bad employment) well this year a couple of teams moved to the other league that bowls there... we NOW have a curfew, be done by nine.... at nine it turns into moonlight/xtreme bowln or whatevr the F k they call it and they put open bowlers(parties screamn kids, etc etc) RIGHT next to the first lane the league starts.... sorry if this is a lil of topic!!
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I'm with you, Cheech!
Some fat bitch yelled at me 4 lanes away because she said I was bowling at nearly the same time as her.
Like a lot of the members have said, if your mental game is that bad, work on that. If me bowling next to you, distracts you, obviously, you aren't focusing on your shot, rather, your peripheral vision.
God, I hate people. 
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Should've thrown a bowling ball at his face.
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Things I have encountered in recent times:
- Complaint from fat bithc who was bowling on 11-12 when I was practicing on 5-6. She told the desk that it was their position round to win the half (ma & pa league) and I was distracting the bowlers. The desk basically told her "too bad".
- 140 average old man throwing his ball down on the ball return when someone else stepped up on him 2 lanes away.
- Multiple lower average bowlers insisting on 2 lane courtesy.
- A teammate (200 avg) who insists on 3 lane courtesy.
This is another reason that leagues are suffering. It just takes too long to bowl the 3 games.