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a_ak57

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Double-jointed thumb?
« on: December 16, 2005, 05:44:50 AM »
I'm not sure if this is the right term for it first off.  I think it's also known as Hitchhiker's thumb.  But now that I think about it, how significant is it?  While I was bored today after completing a test, I actually was twiddling my thumbs.  Then it struck me.  I effectively have two different thumb positions.  My double-jointed one, where the thumb is bent the other way and almost dislocated from it's standard position, and another position.  This position is found from when I have my thumb towards my palm then bring it out to just before it "breaks" the other way.  Others with this kind of thumb will know what I'm talking about.  But I realized, this should be a significant consideration in regards to my thumbhole.  Here's a picture I made in MS paint in about 30 seconds to help illustrate for those who have no idea what I'm talking about.  Yes, I know it looks like it was drawn by a 2nd grader with shaky hands.  Stay with me though.

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Thinking about it, in theory the one on the top, just before breaking point is the natural position for my hand.  It's also the more comfortable position.  But as you can see, it looks like it would require a large amount of forward thumb pitch.  And the other one would work for a standard 0 pitch, but the tip of the thumb is pointed the other way, which would be to the back of the hole.  I've always had a problem with having the ball drop out of my hand and had a little more foward pitch installed.  At one point with my old stuff, if I didn't grip the ball to death it would fall out as my backswing ascended.  Another reason I think about this is because I believe it is Triggerman who once told me he is double jointed as well.  And he has 1/8 forward pitch with a span just over 5".  You may say "well that's not a lot" but compared to his span it's quite a lot.  I have a comfortable span around 4 1/2.

So have I found any point in all my ramblings, or am I just subconciously using my oddly-structured thumb as an excuse to mask the fact that I just suck?
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 01:51:19 PM »
I have the same "double jointed thumb"  I've never had any pitch or thumbhole problems as long as the hole is snug and doesn't grab laterally on my release.  I've used as much as 1/4 reverse in the past, I am currently at 1/8th reverse with a 4 1/2" span
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 02:02:38 PM »
The cranker max Jimmy Keeth had a double jointed thumb
it didn't seem to hurt him any!.  You might want to try his style...wrist cocked enough to put ball against forearm!!!

I have two young kids with the same thumb!!!

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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 02:06:54 PM »
Andy - I too am double jointed. The joint isn't as flexible as it was when I was younger, so I don't have to make as many concessions now.

But when I was younger, my thumb was very double jointed. In addition, if you pulled up on the tip of my thumb, the whole digit would get about 1/4 to 1/2 inch longer. This would also occur on my backswing.

It made for all sorts of challenges. I'm now very happy with 3/8" forward - with approx. a 4 1/16" span.
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2005, 02:10:57 PM »
That is not much forward...considering tables would put one 1/8 forward anyway.

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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2005, 02:15:51 PM »
With you diagram in mind..my thumb would almost make a letter L

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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2005, 03:28:51 PM »
I don't believe that is double-jointed. That is just a heraditary thumb bend. Double jointed is when you can bend your thumb back to where it can rest on the top of your hand. It should acutally come over top of your pointer finger knuckle. I can only do it in my left hand so it doesn't help me.
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2005, 03:50:46 PM »
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I don't believe that is double-jointed. That is just a heraditary thumb bend. Double jointed is when you can bend your thumb back to where it can rest on the top of your hand. It should acutally come over top of your pointer finger knuckle. I can only do it in my left hand so it doesn't help me.
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I guess it's just called Hitchhiker's thumb then.  All I know is people look at me like WTF when I try to give a thumbs up and it's not even up but rather pointing back at my arm....
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2005, 08:22:21 PM »
lol, i have a double-jointed thumb... and like triple jointed fingers, lol.

My fingers can bend standard, then bend the first joint alone to form a 90 degree angle type thing then my finger tips bend backwards naturally (without pushing it back, lol)............

figure that out, lmao.
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Edited on 12/16/2005 9:12 PM

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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2005, 08:28:39 PM »
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lol, i have a double-jointed thumb... and like triple jointed fingers, lol.

My fingers can bend standard, then bend the first joint alone to form a 90 degree angle type thing then my finger tips bend backwards naturally (without pushing it back, lol)............

figure that out, lmao.
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Edited on 12/16/2005 9:12 PM

My fingers are like that as well.  It's hard for me to hold out my hand and make all my fingers be flat, I have to think about it.  People get grossed out when I put the pads of my fingers on a table then make a C with the rest of my hand. Heh.

Oh yeah and to LuckyLefty's post, I'd need to add more forward pitch if I wanted to be able to cup the ball that much.  I have to death squeeze it if I try to do that with my current grip.
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Edited on 12/16/2005 9:20 PM

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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2005, 08:32:13 PM »
i also have a double jointed thumb and using a 1/4 reverse pitch really cut my thumb up
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Re: Double-jointed thumb?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2005, 08:38:48 PM »
I just went from a 1/4 reverse to a 1/8 forward and 1/8 right pitch in my thumb hole, greatest change i have ever made, my thumb is more relaxed and my release is better than ever!

Good luck to you Andy on finding that magic grip in the thumb!
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