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TidalKnight

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Looking to buy my first ball..
« on: October 12, 2011, 01:05:50 PM »

Hello, I've always liked bowling but always got discouraged. I am in a class/league two hours a night each week and the coach has really helped me.. I feel like I learned how to bowl for the first time. I'm intrigued about hooking so I am practicing that and want to be a hooker (lol)...


I was thinking about the Brunswick Slingshot, what do you think for a first ball?
I am a little apprehensive about getting a fingertip grip since I'm used to conventional.. and I don't want to drop the ball..




 

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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 09:31:59 PM »
 
The Slingshot is a great entry level ball, but might I suggest a small step up in price, but a large step up in forgiveness and performance with the Massive Damage?
When you are learning, a ball like the Massive Damage will allow you more "miss room" on the lanes. Don't worry about the fingertip drilling. If it fits properly you'll adjust easily and be glad you went that way. Good luck.
 
 
 
 


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 09:55:32 PM »
You know honestly I am pleasantly surprised at the small price difference between entry level balls and pro level balls, I feel almost guilty buying something entry level when pro level balls are not much more, but I was worried that they are made more for people have certain styles or preferences. So yeah the massive damage is definitely in my price range. What would the differences be?


Also is 14 pounds ok or should I go heavier?


 

Is the Brunswick Damage also a good ball? Looks better lol..
 
Edited by TidalKnight on 10/12/2011 at 9:58 PM

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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 10:33:02 PM »
You might also look at a Roto Grip Rising Star.  It can usually be had for only a few dollars more than a slingshot and is a big step up in performance being that it can handle more oil and also still work for the dry.  You will almost surely get better hitting power out of a fingertip ball, it will just take a little time to get used to it.  I would speak to your pro shop regarding ball weight, you should only throw what is comfortable.  While 15lbs is generally the most used and hit great, if it is too heavy it won't help.  


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 11:31:58 PM »
Considering you are taking lessons/class with a coach, I would ask them for recommendations concerning, ball, weight, fingertip, etc.  They would will have a better understanding of your style/game than any of us would.  If they can't/won't make a recommendation, then it might be time to get a new coach.


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 02:21:41 PM »
I would suggest a used ball because your form and shot is going to change as you learn more about the sport.  Dont waste money on new balls until you have figured out your craft.


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 01:34:00 PM »
Try not to think of bowling balls as entry level vs "pro".  There really is no such thing.  Balls tend to be made to handle varying conditions.  Today's so-called "entry" level balls are "pro" level balls from a year or more ago.  I find these balls are some of the most versatile on the market and many bowlers are highly successful with these balls on your typical house shot in any league you will join.  If you are just learning to hook the ball, it honestly won't make much sense to spend lots of money on "high-end" equipment. 
If you are looking to get serious, plenty of balls like the Roto Grip Rising Star, Storm Tropical Heats, Columbia Freeze, and Ebonite Cyclone are great balls.  In fact, my Freeze is still my every day benchmark ball and I average about 220.
TidalKnight wrote on 10/12/2011 9:55 PM:
You know honestly I am pleasantly surprised at the small price difference between entry level balls and pro level balls, I feel almost guilty buying something entry level when pro level balls are not much more, but I was worried that they are made more for people have certain styles or preferences. So yeah the massive damage is definitely in my price range. What would the differences be?


Also is 14 pounds ok or should I go heavier?


 

Is the Brunswick Damage also a good ball? Looks better lol..
 
Edited by TidalKnight on 10/12/2011 at 9:58 PM


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 09:21:15 AM »
The main reason at starting an entry level reactive ball is the idea of control. Let' remember this person is new to the sport. If they go with higher end equipment, as we all know, the higher end stuff can kind of get condition specific.

 

I have not seen this person throw, but usually most bowlers starting out are very inconsitent when learning to throw a reactive ball and getting it to turn. An entry level ball is a very good start, you don't even have to go to fingertip right away. There is nothing wrong with taking things in steps. The key component to becoming a good bowler is having good mechanics.  

 

 
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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 10:07:05 AM »
TidalKnight, I think a vid here would promote some fine suggestions.  If we can see you throw a few shots that would help.


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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 05:38:57 PM »
Video posted..

haha I suck though..


http://www.ballreviews.com/bowling/general/beginners_board/please_help_me_with/5/27/280573/1/forumreplies.aspx
 
Edited by TidalKnight on 10/17/2011 at 5:39 PM

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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 08:30:24 PM »
Hey there- welcome to the sport. 

 

First for the ball choice- I could see potentially the Massive Damage or a Rising Star.  Both are all around good choices for medium-dry conditions and can give you a bit of room starting out.  I definitely would not get into the midrange-high performance stuff yet.  That stuff is going to be way too condition specific for developing your game.  One option that will help you save some money is that you can go with a reconditioned ball.  These are basically "like new" and would probably be best until you further develop your game.  A lot of times, you can find similar balls to what we have already mentioned reconditioned at a good price.

 

I did check out your video and wanted to offer a few suggestions.  The big thing I noticed (and that you mentioned also) is that you're getting the swing going too late- by the 3rd step.  What can happen with that is that it throws the timing off and will cause you to pull the ball left.  I would suggest to have the swing started by the 2nd step.  This way, you develop a consistant approach.  A person that can help you obviously is your coach; the coach will see stuff that you may not notice, and that can be used to further improve.

 

A fingertip grip really is not that hard to get used to.  Is there a little bit of a learning curve?  Yes, because with the fingers going in to the first crease, you will have a litlte bit of an earlier release.  However, it allows you to generate revolutions on the ball to help carry.  My suggestion in this case is to go with it.  A good driller will make sure that you're measured out properly and that the fit is exactly what you need.  Also, a good driller will watch you bowl on the lane and tailor a layout to what you need.

 

You mentioned that you want to be a hooker.  Starting out, keep it simple.  Don't worry about having to cover a ton of boards at first.  Playing outside is always easier to start with.  Once you are comfortable with that and have developed your game, you can experiment with different hand positions and different inside lines.  After all, not all lane conditions will work for throwing 4th arrow out to the 5th board and have it roaring back.  Then again, some will require that.  Versatility is a great thing, and it will be better in the long run.

 

Last bit of advice: don't be afraid to ask for advice or to have someone watch your game if you think something is going on.  Recently, there was an issue with my swing and my timing was a little off to start the season.  Working with my driller (who is also a certified coach), we got on the lanes and she noticed that my wrist was slightly out of position and my pushaway was off.  Working on that and not standing as far back on the approach, along with slightly lowering my swing height,  my game is back to where I want it.  We also came up with some better layouts.  Use the resources available to you in helping your game. 
 

Good luck to you and feel free to keep asking questions you may have.



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Re: Looking to buy my first ball..
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 11:39:06 PM »
Thanks for all the tips!

 

As far as the ball goes I ordered the Brunswick Damage. I kind of came to the same conclusion that I should start with something that wasn't TOO hookable and would be better for medium-dry conditions since I won't be bowling in any heavy oil sports conditions.. though in my class I notice them oiling the lanes before we start, how long (games wise) until the oil breaks down)? I did want something I could grow into.

 

I noticed a ball tonight that was an X-large house ball and the span made it so it felt like a fingertip grip (only first knuckle went in on the two fingers) and it felt just fine, better in fact.

 

I will ask the class teacher/coach to watch me tomorrow.. but video does help get coaching online too.