Post by: channel surfer on July 03, 2003, 05:09:59 AM
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Post by: Siniak on July 03, 2003, 08:43:10 PM
Post by: charlest on July 03, 2003, 09:06:32 PM
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Post by: channel surfer on July 03, 2003, 11:38:34 PM
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Post by: channel surfer on July 04, 2003, 12:30:48 AM
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Post by: channel surfer on July 04, 2003, 02:00:49 AM
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Post by: charlest on July 04, 2003, 07:22:59 PM
STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE FREAKING WEBSITE APPEARANCE AND LEARN ABOUT THE [expletive deleted] BALLS!
Yes, we can all design better website appearances but how many of us can design great balls??? 1 out of 10,000 ???
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Post by: charlest on July 04, 2003, 10:08:13 PM
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Charlest, if you're a bowling ball company and you come out with QUALITY products AND you want to show off your QUALITY products on the internet, make a QUALITY website. It shows a lack of professionalism and makes me wonder exactly what type of quality can it be if they don't have at least a decent looking website.
I hear what you're saying, but a small company is still a small company. They may not have had much choice in the matter; besides this matter should be laid at the feet of, not AZO, but Lanemasters, who now owns AZO. AZO is still notapproved by the PBA; so they probably can't even afford that. Yes, I know a good web master is not really that expensive.
I don't think it has to do with professionalism so much as priorities: what can they afford that is most valuable to them. The fact that it exists at all is a major plus. That fact that more experienced programmers don't like it may not be the most important factor. Remember even bad notoriety is good publicity.
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Post by: A_P_K on July 04, 2003, 10:47:48 PM
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Pin Krusher.....a.k.a...The Littleboy with a Neutron Bomb
Drastically inflicting pin punishing destruction, and doing it with...................well a Drastic!!
Post by: channel surfer on July 04, 2003, 11:12:23 PM
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Post by: charlest on July 05, 2003, 07:35:14 AM
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im not intrested about there balls at all since no one has them or sells them around here...
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AZO is available from Buddies Pro Shop in Connecticut and online:
http://shop.buddiesproshop.com/dept.asp?dept_id=01-002
From Bowlers Paradise online:
http://www.bowlersparadise.com/shop/balls/azo/
And Bauer's Pro Shop in PA:
http://www.bauerproshop.com/new_balls.htm#azo
If you haven't tried them, don't knock them.
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Post by: A_P_K on July 05, 2003, 08:44:47 AM
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Pin_Krusher, formerly Divine Dragon.....a.k.a...The Littleboy with a neutron bomb
Drastically inflicting pin punishing destruction, and doing it with...................well a Drastic!!
Post by: channel surfer on July 05, 2003, 11:18:48 AM
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Post by: charlest on July 05, 2003, 03:19:55 PM
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charlest, do you own any AZO balls yourself? Some of their equipment is just remarkable.
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Pin_Krusher,
Drastically inflicting pin punishing destruction, and doing it with...................well a Drastic!!
I had a Red Fire but sold it. It was for medium-light to dry-ish but had too huge a backend. Most dries I see are on the spotty side; so big hooking dry lanes balls are not for me. This i sth eone I tried several surface mods on; it comes polished and as AZO says it should stay polished. You can polish AZO balls that come dull But DO NOT dull/sand AZO balls that come polished.
Just ordered a Blue FIre; can't wait to see what it does.
Have a Drastic Spec-R. Useful for medium to medium-light oil patterns. 3" pin drilled 1:30 with CG on negative side, about a 4" x 5.5"; a lotta length with another huge and consistent backend, not flippy but strong, VERY hard arc with good-to-excellent hitting power. I like it a lot.
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Post by: MrH on July 05, 2003, 05:52:06 PM
Post by: charlest on July 05, 2003, 08:22:05 PM
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AZO balls aren't approved by the ABC?
Why would you say that?
Here is the current list of balls that do not conform to ABC specifications:
http://www.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/static.html?page=bowl_speccert_balllist_nonconforming
Here is the list of balls approved by the ABC:
http://www.bowl.com/bin/pdf/approved_balllist.pdf
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Edited on 7/5/2003 8:31 PM
Post by: A_P_K on July 05, 2003, 08:34:31 PM
The Littleboy is an absolute carry monster, I hardly leave any corners at all, even the flat tens go down.
I can't believe how powerful the Spec-R is, it's got to be the hardest hitting ball out there. This one is drilled like my Inferno and Blue Fire, 4 1/4" by 5". It seems that since it is a 1:30 drill, our reactions would be the same. I also really like this ball alot, but I cannot carry any flat tens with this ball. Any other hits that smell pocket kill the pins.
The Blue Fire is pretty strong, mine is drilled 4 1/4" by 5" and it gets through the heads nicely with a strong hard arc to the pocket. I would compare the move to the even arc motion of my Inferno, but good for carrydown.
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Pin_Krusher, formerly Divine Dragon.....a.k.a...The Littleboy with a neutron bomb
Drastically inflicting pin punishing destruction, and doing it with...................well a Drastic!!
Edited on 7/5/2003 8:41 PM
Post by: charlest on July 05, 2003, 08:56:49 PM
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charlest, I myself own a Littleboy, Drastic Spec-R, and the Blue Fire.
I can't believe how powerful the Spec-R is, it's got to be the hardest hitting ball out there. This one is drilled like my Inferno and Blue Fire, 4 1/4" by 5". It seems that since it is a 1:30 drill, our reactions would be the same. I also really like this ball alot, but I cannot carry any flat tens with this ball. Any other hits that smell pocket kill the pins.
Pin_Krusher,
I found this to be sort of true the first time I used it. I figured it was the extraordinary way it got through the heads via the pearl cover. I changed my release slightly to decrease my axis of rotation, and give it more of an end over end roll. Worked fine. I can hit it fairly hard with more revs than normal (which normally results in more length) and as long as I use a "less spin" and a "more roll" release, then I leave many less flat 10 pins. Minor change.
Also if you try more of a stroker release and less of a tweener release, the result should be the same.
Another also, I find you can't let it roll out; if the lanes are too dry, it will hit softly. Have to keep speed on the firm side, in that case.
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Post by: A_P_K on July 05, 2003, 09:52:34 PM
When I tried to deliver the ball with a lower track release, it tended to jump off the dry a little too hard for me. I guess because of the "pearl" cover it gave me a little over under when it hit the oil line, but most ball are like that. I think what I like the most about the Drastic is how it gets down the lane. It seems to fly effortlessly through the heads and some of the midlane even, making a very smooth but strong move to the pins. I call it the stealth assassin because of it's reaction on the backs.
Anyways, reading what you posted about your Drastic will help me understand how to use mine better and harness it's tremendous power.
Have you ever thrown the Littleboy at all? If you like AZO any, it is definitely worth getting one. I'd have to say if the bowler can control the Littleboy, it is damn near the best ball ever made.
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Pin_Krusher, formerly Divine Dragon.....a.k.a...The Littleboy with a neutron bomb
Drastically inflicting pin punishing destruction, and doing it with...................well a Drastic!!
Post by: snake on July 05, 2003, 11:22:57 PM
Post by: JK300JP on July 07, 2003, 02:04:19 PM
Here , let's talk about balls of AZO.
It seems that AZO is supplied with the technology of weight block from Legend-Star(L/S) of Japan.
Weight blocks of AZO are are the same or similar with weight blocks of L/S.
Balls of AZO are put on the market first in Japan and after in U.S. Fantasy-X and Drastic are nostalgic sound.
Japanese manufacturers are inferior in the technology of resin. In order to compensate it , technology of low RG and high differential weight block have been developed. Probably, AZO adopted the technology.
New AZO balls are put on the market in Japan. www.legend-star.com