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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: thumper on March 20, 2009, 12:24:10 PM
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What are the two worst bowling balls you've ever thrown?
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a FURY and a.....FURY...worst ever...only one that comes to mind
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The One and Resurgence
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NVD and NVD, I bought two and tried different drill patterns!
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The two that come emmediately to mind would be:
Roto-Grip Fuel : Put my favorite drilling on it and not matter what I did for surface adjustments I never got a ball reaction that I liked.
Storm Power Bolt : Man what a turd...only ever matched up to one lane condition and it was very specific.
I've had some other pieces, but these are definately top of my list.
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a FURY and a.....FURY...worst ever...only one that comes to mind
i second and third that!!!!!!!!!!!
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Complete Chaos
Big One
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Ultra Angle and Lane 1 THS
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Why Jr Why
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Twisted Fury Solid
Angular One
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visionary scorcher
complete chaos
no bigger piles of ,,, then them and i have had alot
of ball bowling balls in my day
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Twisted Fury Solid
Angular One
wow, angular one.....thought that was a nice piece..
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Edge
Power Bolt
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i liked the angular one also
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Tropical Storm
Omega
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Kyle
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Counter Strike
No Limit
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Playmaker (massive over under)
G Force Solid
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Ive Eaten From The Insane Root That Imprisons Reason
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Vector One
Trimax
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Action Max
Action Packed
Columbia had a lot of bad equipment around this time.
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my first ball was a tropical storm and that was a good ball in my opinion
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Bolt Pro
Hammer Big Blue...most expensive ten pin ball I ever had!!
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I would give anything to add some revs to my game
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3-D Hammer Super Hook (the red one). I always called it the 3-Dud Super Hookless. Second place goes to the Chaos.

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White Dot 
Every time I hear the word exercise, I wash my mouth out with chocolate.
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amf sumo
track nrg
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Ebonite born---Ebonite bred-----if they sell out I'll be Ebonite dead
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Action Max
Action Packed
Columbia had a lot of bad equipment around this time.
personally i loved the action packed, still in my bag
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Triton Heat Elite and Hammer No Mercy those two n matter how hard I try to hook the balls.They rather go straight with little or no hook at all.
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hammer no mercy
columbia power drive
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my no mercy hooks like no other
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The Storm Hit series was crap
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Creature solid
Radical Inferno
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The original Pin Krusher
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Raging Inferno. Only terrible ball I've ever thrown.
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Momentum Swing was the last Columbia ball I'll ever throw.
Storm Passion Lust was the last international ball I'll ever throw.
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buzzbomb/R, until i redrilled it, now its money. Otherwise it would have to be my NVS, i bowled well with it, but it seemed to be a very condition specific ball, now its sitting at home because i have no room in my lockers
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A couple of old Faball Hammer balls come to mind----The Wheel and the 4D Particle. Both of these did a lot of nothing.
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I go back and forth a bunch, trying to decide. At the moment, I'd have to say Columbia Complete Chaos is a solid No. 1 on the list. There are about a dozen fighting for No. 2. Probably the Ebonite Savage.
Jess
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Enriched Uranium
Neptune
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JAT Junior Amateur Tour
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Raging Inferno (a petrified purple Barney turd, with "B" and "raging inferno" on it)
NVS (I dunno what to say. Worst ball I have ever thrown. more like POS)
Cell Pearl (most over under ball I have ever thrown. and to make it worse, very condition specific. ugh)
Chrispy
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Edited on 3/21/2009 1:27 AM
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equation^2
total inferno
both left and hit like a piece of butter like no other.
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yes i sandbag im left handed.
Typical house bowler
Avg-210
lineup:
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Quantum Le
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atomic charge and black widow soild. well, after bout 30-40 games for the widow it turned to krap
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All though a opinion-based post, I'll chime in.
The AMF- Titan was very "I'll do what I want." type of ball. No matter what drilling I put thru it.
And, I would have to go with the Dyno Thane- Vendetta BLK/RED. I never could get a solid line with that ball.
[Mind you I am not saying they are bad equipment. I just did not have the patience to up and re-drill, and use them in the house they should be used in.]
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The Big One,Pearl Uranium Buzzsaw
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ebonite Stinger purple pearl
amf whiplash
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Big B > *
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nsane levrg
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Track GP2
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HAMMER BIG BLOCK DESIEL
STROM HOT ROD HY-BRID
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AMF Ultra C and the Hammer Novas
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The AMF TITAN was also a bust for me. Tried plug/re-drill but it still didn't do right by me! Sitting on a shelf with about 5 games on it gathering dust!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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I would have to say the Fury
I would also disagree with The One and the Resurgence that were previously mentioned.
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Ebonite V2 Sweet: Tried it out at a demo day and loved it. Drilled one up and used it at a variety of houses and a variety of conditions and seemed to be a no tap machine.
Storm Barbed Wire: I can see why Ryan Shafer had a case of these as a spare ball.
Didn't live up to what I saw like the Hot Wire...
Matt
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Count me as a Raging Inferno fan. It only did one thing for me, which was down and in on a heavy oil shot, but it did it pretty well. You'd better have a LOWWWWWW axis tilt if you want to swing this ball. And actually, a guy bought it off me who had some weird drilling where his thumb was in the ball but way farther over to the left and it generated a lot of revs...he stacked it and drilled a strong hole while also dulling it down and he was going coast to coast on our house shot with it. I also was a huge fan of the Smokin' Inferno and shot my 300/785 with it

Now the Scorchin' Inferno...that ball just flat out SUCKED. Maybe if it was marketed as a medium oil ball and came shined it would have been pretty awesome, but as a heavy oil ball it was just terrible.
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Zone Classic
Twisted Fury
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high score: 300 (1/10/07 Tropical Storm)
My Arsenal
Cell Pin above ring finger(STOLEN)
Columbia300 Perfect Rival pin above the bridge
Storm Rapid Fire Pearl Pin above ring finger
Columbia Messenger Low RG stacked label
Brunswick Inferno Pin above Bridge
2 tropical storms one pin up one pin down
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1. An oldie most will agree with--Columbia Orange Dot. Wouldn't knock over a lincoln log, much less a pin.
2. A newer one most liked-- Storm El Nino GOLD. After three different drillings and 1/2 dozen surfaces, I NEVER got a reaction out of this ball I could recognize.
Running a close third seems to be a Mo-Rich Lev-RG. It was drilled with Mo's control drilling, so I plugged the thumb for a span change, ball did NOTHING. Full plug and re-drill stronger, STILL NOTHING.
Another full plug and re-drill with pin-to-pap of 6, pin-to-mb of 2 1/2 finally got it to do something, but I already had balls that would do as good or better than this. I now have over $135 in a three and a half drill ball that isn't particularly all that good.
Now that I got laid off, I wish I had my money back!
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yes i sandbag im left handed.
Typical house bowler
Avg-210
lineup:
need some balls p
Quantum Le
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Angular One and Fury, wound up giving both of those balls away to JBT bowlers.
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Fury pearl
Solid Ogre
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I waited to respond for this reason. Look at all the balls listed here and they run the whole gamut, from early rolling oil pieces, to late skid/snap pieces.
There are very few BAD bowling balls. Just ones that are bought by the wrong bowler and/or for the wrong conditions. One of the problems we see at our pro shop is that a bowler wants a particular ball because his friend is killing it with that ball. Nevermind that their games are entirely different and play different parts of the lane... and sometimes at different houses with varying lane surfaces.
If we suggest altering the ball's surface to enhance carry, they give us this bewildered look like, why? Is that legal? Every ball will have it's strong points, and weaknesses if used at the wrong time. If you're wanting and "heavy oil ball" to skid/snap you're barking up the wrong tree...
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 1:35 PM
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i disagree with the fury pearl, that ball is money on a house shot
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Big B > *
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i disagree with the fury pearl, that ball is money on a house shot
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Big B > *
I must have got a bad one then.
I had a bowler with a ton of hand throw it,wouldnt break a bit.
He bought it off me for a ten pin ball.
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BVP Nemesis- I tried every surface and I never could get that ball to look good
Smokin' Inferno- Threw 300 with it once... but most over under ball I have ever thrown
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I waited to respond for this reason. Look at all the balls listed here and they run the whole gamut, from early rolling oil pieces, to late skid/snap pieces.
There are very few BAD bowling balls. Just ones that are bought by the wrong bowler and/or for the wrong conditions. One of the problems we see at our pro shop is that a bowler wants a particular ball because his friend is killing it with that ball. Nevermind that their games are entirely different and play different parts of the lane... and sometimes at different houses with varying lane surfaces.
If we suggest altering the ball's surface to enhance carry, they give us this bewildered look like, why? Is that legal? Every ball will have it's strong points, and weaknesses if used at the wrong time. If you're wanting and "heavy oil ball" to skid/snap you're barking up the wrong tree...
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 1:35 PM
This is exacly what i was thinking..
other than a bad production run like the Striking motion had.. anu ball will be good for the right bowler and condition wich can change by bowler.
No two people throw it the same..
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NVD 14lb
Playmaker 14lb
Bash Re/Black 14lb
Bam Blue/Black 14lb
Viper R.I.P (Cracked all the way arround ball)
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Brunswick Swamp Monster
Columbia U Dot (burgundy)
The Swamp Monster was a giant green marshmallow. I gave it to my brother in law who throws a backup ball.
Edited on 3/21/2009 2:42 PM
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I waited to respond for this reason. Look at all the balls listed here and they run the whole gamut, from early rolling oil pieces, to late skid/snap pieces.
There are very few BAD bowling balls. Just ones that are bought by the wrong bowler and/or for the wrong conditions. One of the problems we see at our pro shop is that a bowler wants a particular ball because his friend is killing it with that ball. Nevermind that their games are entirely different and play different parts of the lane... and sometimes at different houses with varying lane surfaces.
If we suggest altering the ball's surface to enhance carry, they give us this bewildered look like, why? Is that legal? Every ball will have it's strong points, and weaknesses if used at the wrong time. If you're wanting and "heavy oil ball" to skid/snap you're barking up the wrong tree...
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 1:35 PM
I agree 100% with what you are saying. We can still say that they are the worst balls we have used though. As I stated I absolutely hated the Pacific Storm I gave it to someone else who loved it. I tried the Ebonite Omega and I could not figure that ball out at all. Sometimes it would hook out of the house then next time it was a dud.
Now with what you are saying I should have said the Track TKO since I was told by 3 different pro shop people that ball would be terrible for me. I loved that ball. For some reason I trusted that ball more then anything I had at the time. If I was struggling with another ball I could pick up the TKO and get locked in.
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Kyle
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I will chime in on this thread, knowing full well, that there are very few "bad" bowling balls out there, just bad match-ups with operators!
But with that caveat in mind, here's my list of truly "bust" balls for me:
1. Azo- Fatman
2. AMF- Whiplash
3. Brunswick- Fury
4. Brunswick- Radical Inferno
5. Ebonite- Acryllium?
6. MoRich- LevRG
I absolutely loved my Angular One. It did exactly as advertised, on a consistent basis. I got a very sharp, angular move to the pocket, every time I threw it. Used to frustrate the competition terribly in pot games.
( I know I was only supposed to list two- but it's too hard to decide)
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Edited on 3/21/2009 3:16 PM
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Radical Inferno
Track Assassin
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Hey new to the board I had to sign up so I could chime in here. By far the worst ball I have ever received is the Motiv tx1 I don't know if mine is miss marked or a dud but its horrible. Givin the guys at motiv are going to replace the ball on the chances its a dud I'm still not impressed.
The other ball had to be the Track eXception never got a great read out of that ball.
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I waited to respond for this reason. Look at all the balls listed here and they run the whole gamut, from early rolling oil pieces, to late skid/snap pieces.
There are very few BAD bowling balls. Just ones that are bought by the wrong bowler and/or for the wrong conditions. One of the problems we see at our pro shop is that a bowler wants a particular ball because his friend is killing it with that ball. Nevermind that their games are entirely different and play different parts of the lane... and sometimes at different houses with varying lane surfaces.
If we suggest altering the ball's surface to enhance carry, they give us this bewildered look like, why? Is that legal? Every ball will have it's strong points, and weaknesses if used at the wrong time. If you're wanting and "heavy oil ball" to skid/snap you're barking up the wrong tree...
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 1:35 PM
In general, that's very true. Matchups dictate most of the issue of whether a ball is "good" or "bad."
But there are a few cases in which the ball itself was a mistake. I've seen the Columbia Complete Chaos mentioned three or four times just in this thread, and every time this thread comes up there seem to be a different set of people mentioning it. After awhile, it begs the question of whether there's something deeper to consider.
My issue with the Chaos (as with most people I've talked to who didn't like it) was that at about the 30-40 game point, it died and could not be brought back to life through any pro shop means. That ball came out when particle technology was still in its infancy and I suspect that was the issue. Ebonite's Tombstone draws similar groans, although I never had one so I can't comment.
Jess
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1- Rival (Columbia)
2- Sledge Hammer (Faball)
Couldn't get a repeatable/good reaction out of either one.
Ended up giving the Rival to my oldest son, and he re-drilled it to fit his hand (same basic layout), and the ball is a monster for him.
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We will be known forever by the tracks we leave.
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The Sledgehammer? I remember buying that one and loving it.
The BVP Mammoth was not good for MY game. I know there are some on this site who liked it, but for me it didn't carry as well as everything else I had. Too heavy of a particle load for me.
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 4:48 PM
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total nv, and one
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The Sledgehammer? I remember buying that one and loving it.
The BVP Mammoth was not good for MY game. I know there are some on this site who liked it, but for me it didn't carry as well as everything else I had. Too heavy of a particle load for me.
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited on 3/21/2009 4:48 PM
The Sledge Hammer was either too aggressive, or, if I laid off it a touch, wouldn't face up to the pocket. It all depends on how our own game matches up, I guess.
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We will be known forever by the tracks we leave.
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Columbia Momentum Swing
Legends Black Pearl
Both were a bust
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Hammer Black widow solid
Storm Virtual Gravity---so far
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What is sandbagging???
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Brunswick Fury
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1. Track Enforcer
2. Dynothane Purple Vendetta
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Go Buckeyes!!!
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Primal Instinct
BuzzBomb/R
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Don't argue with an idiot people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
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Mine were Primal instinct and Momentum. Both straightest ball i have ever thrown. Ones i didnt own but threw at demo days Striking motion and Pin slasher
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My two worst balls were:
Track Heat 2 Pearl. Its on its fourth owner and drilling all 4 HATE that thing.
Storm El Nino. Alot of peole loved theres. That ball went through 3 owners and drills before going the landfill.
I have a few others that I hated, but others used them and liked them so they dont qualify.
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hammer black widow pearl
storm trauma response
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Track Assassin - hit like a wet marshmellow
Blue Wolf - rolled out at 30 feet
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Storm Shift and Secret Agent
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Storm Hyroad 1 2000 abralon(benchmark ball)
Storm Hyroad 2 4000 polished
Storm Second Dimension
Storm T-road Pearl
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Quantum Leap
Track Silencer (Ball wasn't all that bad, but just like every other Track ball I've own it cracked this one just faster then the others)
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a FURY and a.....FURY...worst ever...only one that comes to mind
yep.. mine sucked..
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I was glad to see most of the equipment I have was not listed. The only one was the Fury Pearl, and for me it is awesome. I just recently drilled it up, but shot my high game of the season with it this past Sunday, a 268.
I can't recall a bowling ball I bought that I didn't like or considered a dud.
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Dynothane Energy
Ebonite Total NV
Drilled both simple, pin above the right finger, cg in the palm, mb just right of the thumb. Rolls great on a lot of equipment but not these two. Dynothane rev-d and died. NV very skid snappy and unpredictable. Tried a lot of different surface combinations before selling both away on ebay.
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Storm's X-Factor RE-Loaded (I think that one was REALLY bad)
Brunswick's Smash Zone (Cannot control, it, handles less oil than expected)
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Ebonite Total NV.
I shot by best series with the ball a few weeks after drilling it, and then it died a few weeks later.
Someone listed a Creature Solid. I'd have to say that was a match-up problem. I've had many good outings with that ball! I bought a used one, plugged it, slapped a RICO layout on it, polished it a bit, and went to town. That ball flies under the radar. Never got much publicity.
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Storm's X-Factor RE-Loaded (I think that one was REALLY bad)
Brunswick's Smash Zone (Cannot control, it, handles less oil than expected)
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my smash hooks off my hand and is DOA...i have taken surface up and polished but same result....pin up 4.5 from pap
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To me, the fit of the ball has always taken precedence over the ball's properties. Don't get me wrong...I have preferences and ball reaction is very important to me, but if the ball isn't drilled to where it fits like a glove thruout the delivery, that ball then becomes a problem to me and thought of as a bad ball. The reverse is also true.
Case in point:
Bought a Brunswick Command Zone used (when it was still in production) and loved it. Later had a bad drilling adjustment made to it, and for years it spent more time going back to various pro shops in an effort to get the ball to be comfortable. Eventually found a driller who was able to make a good adjustment to it, and it was so comfortable (and with good reaction on the lanes) that it became the source drilling from which all or at least most of my equipment was copied.
So that ball went (in my mind) from good to bad and back to good again, without any surface changes whatsoever.
And.... I still like my Complete Chaos. It just isn't used for the same purpose for which it was originally intended. On dryer or broken down lanes, it's a small step up from plastic, and mine still hits hard.
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V2 Strong R ball was red and green when it rolled down the lane it looked brown and it hit like that too. The ball was tooo rolly and just couldnt find a shot for it.
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The One and Resurgence
I think that's funny. For me "The One" is by far the best all around ball ever. I think the Resurgence is not bad either, though not spectacular. I'd call it "ok."
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Track Sheer Havoc
Storm Shift
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2nd place is only the first loser(John Force)
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every brunswick ball if ever ownd is in first
n a close second would be the no mercy
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Hammer90
Nothing Hits Like a Hammer
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the deal and smoking inferno
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Ultimate Inferno and Strike Zone....never could get those balls to work for me.
I gave up on the UI much earlier than I did with the Strike Zone. I tried polishing the SZ and it made it to the pocket but I left 10 pins all day long. Any surface on the ball and it just burned up and did nothing.
Never again will a Brunswick ball find a place in my bag.
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first navy reactive hammer, power machine, top fuel, ebo apex intensity
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Pearl U an Solid U..Both biggest overhyped pos's I've ever thrown..
hehehe.....Wow, just wow.
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The previous pro shop....???? at our center sold a couple of little old ladies SD-73's with 9+ inch pins. They came in after we bought the center and said,"these things don't roll right??? can you fix them." We did fix them but they should have never had them in the first place. I'm sure they bought them for color or something.
Smash49
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Brunswick Fury
Track Phenom
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Impulse Zone..did this ball work for anyone??
Yes, for me it did.
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Double Agent
Vapor Zone