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Bowl_Freak

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Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« on: May 02, 2011, 02:45:14 AM »
with the amount of oil houses put for THS, do we really need high performance balls? My thinking is toning down my arsenal and getting mid-low performance stuff. What do yall think on this topic.


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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2011, 02:37:46 PM »
Strongest ball I use is an Onyx Vibe at 4000 polished and I'm a stroker.


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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 03:28:43 AM »
IMHO, so-called high end stuff is just marketing blah - something that technically can be achieved and makes potentially sense for demanding sport shot conditions (where you actually might need a high friction or a quick response to the dry). But I am sure that a "good bowler" can get along with lower end equipment, and that for 95% of house league bowlers a high end ball is not the right answer to the situation at hand. From my experience, people try to cover up release flaws with aggressive balls, or they are unable to read a ball reaction (à la "does not hook - need stronger ball = high end piece"), or both at the same time.

 

"Stronger and snaps harder than ever before" or "biggest hook since the invention of sliced bread" just sells well, and it is so easy and comfortable to self-delude yourself that a ball overcomes your struggles, instead of putting effort in training and intelligence. We all get tempted and fall for the "hook in the box" trap. But I think that the less you "know" about bowling, the easier it is to succumb to this.

 

Sure, a strong high friction ball can come handy if the lane calls for it. But this can also easily be solved with the proper ball choice, e. g. a Particle Ogre or (from former times) a Swamp Monster - all mid-range pieces at best, and potentially only "necessary" once or twice a year...

 

On the other hand, I subscribe to the "on THS you only need one ball" theory - even though finding the right match can be a challenge. But from my experience I must say that by tendency "less is more" - I find myself more and more reverting to my old Pure Hammer for most league situations.

 


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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 06:12:48 AM »
I think people would be amazed at how much hook you can get from the so called "low end" or mid-range equipment by applying the same surface prep.   360/500 and then a light 1000 or 2000 will do wonders.

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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 07:30:32 AM »
...and it is IMHO not about the hook or the boards covered, but rather an effective ball reaction that goes through skid/hook/roll phases. I totally agree that it is astonishing with how "little" ball you can get along well with. 

Surface prep as well as the ability to adjust the release (hand position, feet, target, etc.) get most of the job done. Personally, I can live with just 5 boards of hook - as long as I get a decent overall reaction of the ball and a good entry angle. And weaker balls (concerning both covers and cores) seem to offer a much wider range of options than ultra-aggressive high end stuff - at least for me?


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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 07:40:38 AM »

 



dizzyfugu wrote on 5/9/2011 7:30 AM:
...and it is IMHO not about the hook or the boards covered, but rather an effective ball reaction that goes through skid/hook/roll phases. I totally agree that it is astonishing with how "little" ball you can get along well with. 


Surface prep as well as the ability to adjust the release (hand position, feet, target, etc.) get most of the job done. Personally, I can live with just 5 boards of hook - as long as I get a decent overall reaction of the ball and a good entry angle. And weaker balls (concerning both covers and cores) seem to offer a much wider range of options than ultra-aggressive high end stuff - at least for me?



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I agree Dizzy, it is "UNFORTUNATE" for the game that, for many, it IS about the number of boards the ball hooks.  That mentality lends itself to the league donators, which I am happy to show them how a 140 dollar Anaconda can take their money.

 

That being said, there are times a big piece is necessary, just not as much in league where there is free hook outside.  Moving my feet I can get the ball to start up later or earlier as need be, but when facing something like Scorpion, that extra fast response is needed.


But for a THS, gimme a ball mid price ball at 2000 and a mid price ball at 2000 with polish (in case of machine malfunction), and i'll go all season with those 2 alone and average 220. 

 

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Re: Do we really need High Performance balls anymore??
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 08:05:24 AM »
I saw in training yesterday what a weak, old ball can do. We had a fresh 40' THS at hand, but high humidity, and I battled with a friend after two warming-up games. He used his Domination, and I was already struggling with my old Renegade which looked as if it would burn up. Switched to my black Pure Hammer, went deeper (feet at 30, aiming across 17 at the arrows and breaking on 5th board!) and stringed together a 233 with an impressive ball reaction (including the BIG Hollywood hook...) vs. a shaky 140 of my friend who was literally rolling a dead ball with almost no hook...

 

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