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cappy718

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Baking/Dishwashing
« on: January 16, 2011, 11:56:03 AM »
I've heard of both of these methods to get the oil out of a ball.  I did a search and didnt really find much on the topic on here.  I talked to a local pro shop and they have the official baking machine which they'd be glad to do for me for 25 bucks and another 25 for a resurface.  At this point, I am over 1/2 way to what I paid for the ball I want this done to.  Not because its an el-cheapo ball, rather its one of the Wild Things that I got when they discontinued it and the price dropped like a rock.  But I've rolled the crap out of this thing and it's not rolling like it used to.  The backend pop is just missing.  I loved the way it rolled, I just want it to do it again.  I've done the hot water bath to it already and didnt get much difference.  Any experience/advice yall could offer would be much appreciated. 

~Scott
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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 03:21:49 PM »
Lanemasters makes a wonderful product called "Pure Clean Ball Wash", it is very simple to use and is sold in 8oz and 32oz bottles from buddiesproshop.com.  It is easy to use, just mix it with warm water in a good sized bucket.

 


 


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cappy718

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 05:18:12 PM »
Well, I got on a roll today and did 4 balls...lol!  I did my old NVS  (500-2000 grit) just to test the waters and it turned out great.  So then I went to my Wild Thing (500-2000grit) and it looks pretty good.  So now I started playing with my other balls to see what different reaction I can get.  I put my Jigsaw at 500,1000 because its not hooking like I thought this ball would.  And then I took my Glad Pearl to 500, 1000 because I want to try to use it on more of a medium oil shot.  I'm going to go practice tomorrow to see what i think.  Got my abralon ordered up and I can tweak these as need be later this week.  Thanks again for the info! 

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 08:31:53 PM »
Hope they all work out for you Scott.
 


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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2011, 08:49:30 PM »
Put your ball in the sun in the backyard, every 10 min clean oil off ball and rotate around, safe and simple, within 40 min u have got rid of a lot of oil, and, it is pretty safe, as ball would only be sitting in warm temperate up to 100 deg farenheit... Works for me..
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The Dreaded Durbin

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 09:58:01 PM »
 "that's why unless I have to do something major to a  ball I don't go into proshops wasting money like that. And btw that is  such a scam and a joke."
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 The reason why the pro shops invest thousands of dollars in equipment is to service you the customer and make sure everything is done right.   I am tired of seeing these posts about how the pro shop screws the customers.
 
Its not always fool proof when you hot water bath your ball, or throw it in the dishwasher and it cracks due to the excessive temperature changes,  cracks because your trying to flood water into the ball while the ball is expanding and contracting or simply because you screwed it up.  Think about this, if I screw up your ball, its on me and I will replace it.  If you do it, thanks for your $200 to drill you a new ball.
 
The Revivor oven gradually increases heat so the bowling ball does not start to expand and contract at and excessive rate.  It's not good to put your bowling ball in a high heat environment right away.  Especially if the ball has been in another environment with different temps, like outside, in the basement, your car etc where its cold. 
 
There is a reason why a $1,600 machine does it better than a $2.50 bucket from Lowes.
 
 
 
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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 06:47:45 AM »
DO NOT bake your ball in your home oven.  I heard about this one guy doing it, he left to run some errands and when he came back all of his house pets were dead because of the fumes.

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 09:28:12 AM »
That happens more than you would like to hear.  I know a guy in town that left the ball in his cooking oven and forgot about it.  Needless to say he got to it in time before it started a fire, but it could of been much much worse.  The ball was destroyed, the house smelled and the oven needed a major cleaning afterwords.
 
If your going to clean your ball, as much as I do not like home concoctions, use the water bath.   Inspect your ball, make sure there are no cracks, or hair line cracks in the ball before you dunk it.   I've had people bring me balls they dunked into the hot water and the ball cracked starting from a previous little crack or hair line in the ball.   The rapid heat change caused the ball to expand and then shrink and the crack gets bigger and bigger.  If your ball looks ok, than you should be able to dunk it in the hot water.   
 
 

 
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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 10:45:20 AM »
If you saw the Revivor in action, I am positive you would be more than willing to pay the $25. It's quite an impressive machine. If I were you, I would pay for the oil extraction and have him bring it back to box finish, which in my shop, is included as part of the rejuvenation process.


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cappy718

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 12:13:26 PM »
I understand what you guys are saying about the proshop methods and having them be responsible for their work and all.  I never said that the proshop was ripping me off!  I agreed with the fact that he was offering me the best service that he could!  I was asking about safe home methods because I am a cheap skate!  It's nothing against the pro shop operator period!  I'm a pretty easy going guy, but it's like some of you guys are pissed that I worked on my own equipment.
 
 I did the hot water bath and then wet sanded them and my Jigsaw turned up a 248 in practice today!  My gladiator pearl is definitely dealing with a lil more oil as well....212 once I found the line.  . Wild Thing has got some pop back in it as well, but I think I'm going to tweak it a bit when my abralon gets here this week.  And even tho the thumb hole on my NVS doesnt really work for me I rolled a 183 with it. (I get hung in it all the time because it's pitched the wrong way.)
 
All in all, I'm pretty happy with what I accomplished!  Again, I appreciate the support you guys offered me.  Now I need to figure out how I want to drill a 715T.  :)


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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2011, 01:04:06 PM »
Hot water is free and it does do the job to an acceptable degree.   Is it the best way to remove oil, no but it does remove oil and get your ball clean.   Do balls crack from it, sometimes it happens.  Will it happen to your ball, probably not.   Would a revivor and resurface work better, yes it would.  Other than that if your happy and the performance of the ball has returned than all is well.
 
I don't like filling up a bowling ball with water, having it get into the holes, having it absorbed into the cover stock.   
 
It is the best home method you can use.  Safer than other methods, less mess and less chance for catastrophe.
 
 
The quote below couldn't be further from the truth.

"that's why unless I have to do something major to a  ball I don't go into proshops wasting money like that. And btw that is  such a scam and a joke."
 
 
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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2011, 05:05:50 PM »
I can only go from personal experience.  I have been using the hot water method for years.  When one of my balls got damaged and the house was going to repair it for me, I was asked if I would like them to put the ball in the Revivor to extract the oil.  I decided to let them just to see how much there was with my using the hot water method regularly.  When I got the ball back, I asked how much oil came out of the ball and they said surprisingly little - they expected more with how old the ball was.  So I guess for me the hot water method is fairly good at extracting oil.
 
 


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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2011, 05:27:48 PM »
Another trick I actually did this in a college course is proof the oil extracts with heat is place it in a bucket of hot water, turn out the lights and place a black light over it. Not only will you see the oil at the top of the water but really on majority of the balls you can see your track filled with oil on top of the ball.


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cappy718

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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2011, 05:47:06 PM »
Brian,
 
Now that's interesting.  I would have never thought to put a black light over the top of it to see the oil.  Good info!  :)  


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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2011, 08:55:12 AM »
this is why I use these guys. $30.00 Bucks for both a revivor and resurface.


 


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Re: Baking/Dishwashing
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2011, 08:46:14 PM »
Just wanted to share that with my newly resurfaced Wild Thing I bowled a personal high again.  I bowled a 267...of course, right after league, but in this new league I got on, I finally crossed the 200 hump.  I had bowled 198s, 199s, etc....couldn't snag a 200 for nothing...  Tonight I bowled a 213 twice, which isn't too impressive, but I'm not complaining either!  I strung 5 together with my newly resurfaced jigsaw.  I am very happy with my results, thanks again for all yalls help with my endeavor! 

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