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CountryClubBowler

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What was it like?
« on: February 02, 2004, 09:21:17 PM »
So to the guys who would actually know, (sawbones bob hansen etc) what would be a comparison to the olden days when scoring was harder.  I don't want to debate whether or not it WAS harder, I just want to know what it would be like now.  Would it be like throwing a houseball on a sport shot?  Is there any way you could make me or people situated like myself understand how it would be more difficult, and in what respects it could be recreated?  Throwing a target zone on a flat pattern?  I just want to understand how it is easier, not just that it is so.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: What was it like?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 01:13:01 PM »
I agree, game was easier.

Bowled in the 60s a little in70s and a touch in early 80s.

It didn't seem like I could miss the pocket.

The ball was sucked in.  The yellow dot era was really fun!

Basically you were never made a fool of but you could not score as high when you got it going.

REgards,

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Re: What was it like?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2004, 01:21:18 PM »
The other thing was the pins.

Today’s pins are so much more lively and fall over easier than in the rubber years.

I don’t know how much lacquer I bowled on (I sure it was some) but I don’t remember seeing the track area in the lanes, I heard older bowlers talk about it but never remember seeing it.

Most of my memories come from the urethane surface. In our house if you had 3 boards you were lucky. One out side that would hit the pocket light and hope you didn’t leave a bucket. The one you were aiming at and one inside you hoped not to leave a 4 pin on. There were easier houses in other cities (I was in a small rural town) and we generally kicked butt in tournaments when they were held there.

Another thing was the deflection on even pocket hits. You couldn’t bowl a night without seeing several 5 – 7, 8 – 10, even 5 – 10 splits. If you didn’t throw it right the ball would look like it almost hit a wall when you hit the pocket and would end up rolling over the  6 pin spot.

CountryClubBowler

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Re: What was it like?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2004, 03:58:17 PM »
I guess as another question that clears things up, I have to ask, what do you think is causing the difference in carry from before?  Is it the entry angle that new covers allow, traction through the pins of new balls,  the dynamics of expensive and modern cores, the oil patterns that often funnel a shot into the pocket with greater speed?


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Re: What was it like?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2004, 04:10:30 PM »
We also need to mention that when the lanes were oiled (70's 80's I was a young lad in the 60's) they did it with a spray gun.  Some kid who didn't know much would just walk around and spray where he wanted.  

Today, the machines are programmed and if the lane man is nice you will get the same shot week after week like I'm getting in one of my houses (that's why I average 225, but I averaged 175 in 1980's).  So, having the confidence that the oil is being laid down and the same way is something that wasn't done back then.
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Re: What was it like?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2004, 04:42:52 PM »
I can only turn the "way back machine" to the late 70's. That's when I started bowling with the AMF Voit Red,White and Blue ball. Probably a modern ball for the time. I remember the oil being much shorter in the early 80's. The patterns were also flatter, less of a hump in the middle. The pins we bowled against were all 3lbs 8oz. to 3 lbs 10 oz. (I know this because of ABC inspections and I also have some)

At some point in 82 0r 83 a new center opened and started putting out the wall shot, and people started throwing 300's, sometimes up to 10 a year in that house. The owner would re-oil the lanes and have the mechanic bowl on them for a while after an honor score so they would pass ABC inspection.(Yes it's hard to believe they would inspect after every 300 game)

During this period I generally used a white dot, blue dot, or a bleeder. The best bowlers learned to tear the cover off the ball and were able to get a pretty decent hook with good power. I remember bowling 25-279 games with plastic.....then The Angle came out. The incredible difference in hitting power was unbelievable. Scores started to go up immidiately for those investing in a Hammer,Angle, or LT48. No more 279's all the time, the carry was better. With the more aggressive cover stock the oil volumes started going up too. Then in the mid 80's they started using lighter pins too, the scores went up even more.

I think we all know what happened in the early 90's with the advent of reactive balls and the B.S. procedure for becoming an ABC sanctioned house.