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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: strikeking12 on March 16, 2017, 04:11:03 PM

Title: ball finish
Post by: strikeking12 on March 16, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
I need a ball cleaner/polish that will put a high gloss, wax finish on a urethane ball. I have tried carnuba stick wax applied with a ball spinner and a buffer, but it does not last very long on the dry lanes that I bowl on.
What will work better?
Title: Re: ball finish
Post by: SVstar34 on March 16, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
Throw plastic if it's that bad
Title: Re: ball finish
Post by: charlest on March 16, 2017, 04:58:28 PM
I need a ball cleaner/polish that will put a high gloss, wax finish on a urethane ball. I have tried carnuba stick wax applied with a ball spinner and a buffer, but it does not last very long on the dry lanes that I bowl on.
What will work better?

You don't need wax on a urethane coverstock because urethane does not depend on oil absorption for its hooking ability. Wax or slip agents make resin coverstocks hook less because it reduces the ability of the coverstock to absorb oil.

For urethane, especially old, true urethane, you need to sand it as smooth as possible, using every intermediate grit level of the abrasive you are using.
(True urethanes are very hard to sand; so you need to start with their current grit level, whatever that may be, then use progressively finer grits, without skipping any.)
Then you need to apply a highly abrasive polish, like Lane#1's Secret Sauce.

This process will or should make true urethanes go longer and hook less naturally.
Title: Re: ball finish
Post by: imagonman on March 16, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
Like charlest said. I used to take my Rhinos' U-Dots, Hammers, etc. down to 1000 or 1500 and then use 3M Finesse-It to get the highest gloss possible. You need an abrasive polish NOT wax or silicone. They were soooo shiny, like mirrors!
I currently use Meguiars Mirror Glaze #9 - Swirl Remover 2.0 works just like 3M Finesse & much cheaper. Contains NO silicone. That's important!
Title: Re: ball finish
Post by: hammajangs on March 17, 2017, 06:16:22 PM
I need a ball cleaner/polish that will put a high gloss, wax finish on a urethane ball. I have tried carnuba stick wax applied with a ball spinner and a buffer, but it does not last very long on the dry lanes that I bowl on.
What will work better?

You don't need wax on a urethane coverstock because urethane does not depend on oil absorption for its hooking ability. Wax or slip agents make resin coverstocks hook less because it reduces the ability of the coverstock to absorb oil.

For urethane, especially old, true urethane, you need to sand it as smooth as possible, using every intermediate grit level of the abrasive you are using.
(True urethanes are very hard to sand; so you need to start with their current grit level, whatever that may be, then use progressively finer grits, without skipping any.)
Then you need to apply a highly abrasive polish, like Lane#1's Secret Sauce.

This process will or should make true urethanes go longer and hook less naturally.

I have a few bottle of the original Secret Sauce, and I'm gonna try this on my Super Natural.  It hooks too much for the way I intend to use it, no matter what surface changes I have made.   8)