Question for everyone...

I took 21years off and came back to the sport a year ago.

I noticed a couple guys saying they were losing energy and couldn’t get through the pins. I’ve heard this phrase a couple of times.

Can some someone explain what the telltale signs are and if possible link a video explaining it?  I’ve not found one yet.

Thank you!

Usually when this happens you leave a lot of corner pins, probably some pocket splits like the 7-10 and 8-10 or 7-9 depending on what hand you throw with.

Otherwise you can tell it's happening by watching how your ball goes through the pins. If it's hitting the headpin and immediately diving right (for a right-handed bowler) or diving left (for a left-handed bowler) then the ball is losing energy. Ideally you want the ball to keep the same momentum it has hitting the pocket and then finishing through the pins, no diving left or right.

Thanks, that’s pretty simple. I was thinking to my self (hopefully didn’t say out loud), put more on the ball.

Thanks again for the explanation!

Quote from: CoorZero on November 07, 2017, 11:00:02 AM

Usually when this happens you leave a lot of corner pins, probably some pocket splits like the 7-10 and 8-10 or 7-9 depending on what hand you throw with.

Otherwise you can tell it's happening by watching how your ball goes through the pins. If it's hitting the headpin and immediately diving right (for a right-handed bowler) or diving left (for a left-handed bowler) then the ball is losing energy. Ideally you want the ball to keep the same momentum it has hitting the pocket and then finishing through the pins, no diving left or right.

Thanks, that’s pretty simple. I was thinking to my self (hopefully didn’t say out loud), put more on the ball.

Thanks again for the explanation!

Putting more on the ball is  not an option. Putting more on it, like more revs, will make it hook even earlier and lose energy faster.

An easier and more logical one is to move deeper (1/0, 2/1, 3/1. 3/2 - 1st number is target, 2nd number is breakpoint) until you find more head oil to help the ball conserve energy.

Other options are
two, to throw the ball faster (if you can do that and keep all other factors the same).
three, to use a milder or more polished ball and play the same line.

Mine does too. do you deoil your ball after every usage?

This has been an issue the entire resin era.  The reason is that the huge amount of friction available down lane causes a ball to transition from skid to hook to roll so quickly.  In essence the ball can out hook the rev rate.  The solution is to find a way to get more direct going in to the pocket.  It is a big problem on house patterns for stroker, tweener type of styles.  It is also part of the reason we have seen such a surge in the return to urethane.  Urethane is s very situational option in my opinion, but can be utilized to stay further right and cut down out angle,  allowing the ball to set up more flush on pocket hits. 

The mist effective solution is more ball speed and lower axis rotation without lowering rev rate.  Unfortunately this can be easier said than done for many if us.

Poor rev dominant players being able to play more angles all over the whole lane and getting better pin carry.  My heart bleeds for them.  At least they can chose to play direct instead of pretty much be forced into only playing that way.

Couldn’t agree more; As being rev dominate myself, I have REALLY had to put so much emphasis on all parts of my game, along with how far in I chase it, along with everything that comes with it...

It’s tough, but if you prepare yourself in all areas, and understand all the strengths and weaknesses of all phases (as I do among others)  It won’t be as big a problem as it is for others. This game is ALL ABOUT TRANSITION, and to stay ahead of it and when to change speeds, releases, and even equipment, and this translates to higher scores/ higher averages.

Not how much it hooks, BUT WHERE and at the proper time/phase.

Absolutely hack unintentionally left the target part out, no question about it.