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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: gadgetman on January 26, 2012, 09:15:15 PM

Title: Ball of the year
Post by: gadgetman on January 26, 2012, 09:15:15 PM
The subject of this thread got lost a bit, but since the dynamo and diamond core became prevalent, I'd like to add that with way more balls than I need, the Dynamo still remains in my bag on newer synthetics with control heavy viscosity oil to 41ft blend. I am not a hi rever either, I've had to take it down a bit, but it still offers better game on than my other oilers. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
That said, the newer stuff is definitely stronger oob.


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Russell on January 27, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
We get it, the ball matches up for you....Lane 1 still blows as a company....we all still know that.

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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Steven on January 27, 2012, 09:59:46 AM
Come on Russell. We don't all know that "Lane#1 blows as a company". If you have specifics, then share. But no need to fan the fire of old battles.  



Russell wrote on 1/27/2012 10:46 AM:We get it, the ball matches up for you....Lane 1 still blows as a company....we all still know that.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Good Times Good Times on January 27, 2012, 11:11:05 AM
My Anaconda was my best ball last year, so it was a personal "ball of the year". 

 

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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Russell on January 27, 2012, 11:12:18 AM
Nah...just sticking to my old guns :)  You know old habits die hard.
 
Steven wrote on 1/27/2012 10:59 AM:
Come on Russell. We don't all know that "Lane#1 blows as a company". If you have specifics, then share. But no need to fan the fire of old battles.  



Russell wrote on 1/27/2012 10:46 AM:We get it, the ball matches up for you....Lane 1 still blows as a company....we all still know that.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"




Little known fact:  In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"
Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Steven on January 27, 2012, 11:58:23 AM
Exactly, GT. "Ball of the Year" is going to be different for all us.

 

All this Lane#1 bashing just gets tiresome. The Dynamo was a very good piece, and with the right drilling, surface prep and oil match up, should have been a good workable ball for just about anyone. But outside the Lane#1 line, I have no idea if it was overall "Ball of the Year" (BOY).

 

Right now, my personal BOY is a 3-year old Columbia Rival. Go figure.
 



Good Times Good Times wrote on 1/27/2012 12:11 PM:
My Anaconda was my best ball last year, so it was a personal "ball of the year". 


  


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on January 27, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
I think it's going to be the Nexus.  Fantastic piece and am seeing more and more of them in league.



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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: NoseofRI on January 27, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
Steven,

Couldn't this statement be true about any ball?  So why would the Dynamo be any different than anything else as so many Lane#1 followers claimed? 

My argument would be that if a ball NEEDS the right layout, surface prep, and is only good on specific lanes conditions, then it's not really a good all around ball. I would lean more towards a ball that works for a variety of bowlers with simple "generalized" layouts, and on a wide variety of conditions, without really "needing" to change the cover much.
 



Steven wrote on 1/27/2012 12:58 PM:
Exactly, GT. "Ball of the Year" is going to be different for all us.


 


All this Lane#1 bashing just gets tiresome. The Dynamo was a very good piece, and with the right drilling, surface prep and oil match up, should have been a good workable ball for just about anyone. But outside the Lane#1 line, I have no idea if it was overall "Ball of the Year" (BOY).


 


Right now, my personal BOY is a 3-year old Columbia Rival. Go figure.
 






Good Times Good Times wrote on 1/27/2012 12:11 PM:

My Anaconda was my best ball last year, so it was a personal "ball of the year". 



  




Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: HAMBONE on January 27, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
Why the talk about the Dynamo?  It was released in 2008    HELL!!!!!!

 

         JUST LET IT DIE!!!!!!!!!


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: HAMBONE on January 27, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
On topic, my guess is the Nano or Nexus


Drop and give me 10
Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Steven on January 27, 2012, 02:03:59 PM
Nose: OOB, I found the Dynamo to need good head/mid oil to keep from burning up. That's why I had my best initial success on fresh first shift THS, or Sport/PBA patterns. I didn't want to be limited in it's use, so over time I've had it everywhere from 800-4000 grit, with and without polish. I've found the cover reacts well to different surface changes and corresponding oil match-ups.

 

Do all balls have this level of versatility?? In my experience, no. Generally, I can't take a high-RG pearl piece and turn it into an effective oiler. I've tried with a few balls, most recently my Ebonite Singer low-flare (I was bored), and it just didn't work. Conversely I've tried a few times to dumb down the reaction on my Super Carbide Bomb, and it tends to kill all reaction. I now keep it at a 35 micron Trizact finish, and I have the big hook reaction back to where it will stay.

 

Some balls react well to wide ranging surface change; others don't. Again, I found that the Dynamo does.

 

I don't know that the Dynamo was 'different' from every other ball on the market. I don't have the money or time to drill up and test every new ball that's released. But it was one of Lane#1's better pieces in recent years.


 



NoseofRI wrote on 1/27/2012 2:36 PM:
Steven,


Couldn't this statement be true about any ball?  So why would the Dynamo be any different than anything else as so many Lane#1 followers claimed? 


My argument would be that if a ball NEEDS the right layout, surface prep, and is only good on specific lanes conditions, then it's not really a good all around ball. I would lean more towards a ball that works for a variety of bowlers with simple "generalized" layouts, and on a wide variety of conditions, without really "needing" to change the cover much.
 






Steven wrote on 1/27/2012 12:58 PM:

Exactly, GT. "Ball of the Year" is going to be different for all us. 



All this Lane#1 bashing just gets tiresome. The Dynamo was a very good piece, and with the right drilling, surface prep and oil match up, should have been a good workable ball for just about anyone. But outside the Lane#1 line, I have no idea if it was overall "Ball of the Year" (BOY).



 

Right now, my personal BOY is a 3-year old Columbia Rival. Go figure.




Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: aussiedave on January 27, 2012, 03:37:03 PM
The Nexus hasn't been around long enough yet although I do not doubt it is a good ball.
My vote goes to the Virtual Gravity Nano - I don't personally own one but have thrown one of my buddies, and another teammate had one so I have watched these things in action and they are the best that I have seen in the last year.
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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Dave81644 on January 27, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
maybe not super popular, but 505t and 715t
If you have tried Track, these 2 balls are awesome
should have bought multiple of each ball


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Medichal on January 27, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
The nexus solid I feel will be the ball of the year. Ball hits extremely hard and on light hits the pins scatter all over the deck. I have mine drilled stacked leverage with the coverstock at 1000 abralon with a high polish shine that still makes a hard turn to the pocket on heavy oil conditions.

Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: BrianCRX90 on January 27, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
"ball of the year" and we are in January of 2012. Wtfing hell.

Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on January 28, 2012, 12:42:19 PM
Ball of the year (from what I've seen/thrown):

 

High-end - Nexxus and/or the Nano. The Nexxus put Brunswick back on the map.  The people using Brunswick in my area were scarce before that ball came out.  As for the Nano, it has been top-seller around my parts and I have one in my arsenal.  I'm a big fan of it - great ball.  I can say the usual "hooks out of the house, hits like a truck, etc."  It's all true and then some.

 

Mid-Level - Frantic.  This ball is a beast for the money.  For me it's a THS killer - just like the 607A was last year.  I see more and more people using this ball every week.  Great ball.

 

Entry-Level - Cyclone.  I see guys using this ball in a highly competitive league I bowl in that puts out a decent amount of oil.  For the pricepoint, it is hard to argue against the performance this ball provides.  I havn't thrown one, but it definitely looks like a great ball from what I've seen so far.


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 28, 2012, 03:16:42 PM
+1000 on that Sunshine .... Best ball I have seen in most all bowlers hands since the original Ebonite Mission and the Storm Virtal Gravity Nano Solid. That Nexus is STRONG as well as very VERSATILE and the new Nexus Pearl is no sissy either as it is as good as they come when the lanes begin to change forcing everyone to put their solids back in the bag. The Nexus line will definitely be my next purchase when I decide and can afford to buy another ball.
 



Sunshine n Lollipops wrote on 1/27/2012 2:10 PM:
I think it's going to be the Nexus.  Fantastic piece and am seeing more and more of them in league.



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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: rvmark on January 29, 2012, 05:19:32 AM
For myself and several others I have seen I will have to go with the Track 503C.  This ball is very versatile and can be used on a variety of oil conditions, if you haven't tried a Track lately give this ball a try.
 
For those who have lower revs then I would have to go with either the Nexus solid or VG Nano.  Both balls very strong, but for myself I rarely see enough oil to throw it and I am a tweener.
 
Mark


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: On Fire on January 29, 2012, 07:46:38 AM
In 2010 my "ball of the year" was the Track 505T and for 2011 I would have to still say the 505T. It's just too good of a ball when I start the series with it. Only time I only come across any issues with it is on longer oil patterns that  has really bad spotty backends/carrydown and harder sport shots like the Masters pattern. 

Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: mainzer on January 29, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Solaris BlackOut Super versatile not only the best of the year bet the most underrated of the year great ball.

 

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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: RyanRPS on January 30, 2012, 10:15:03 AM
They are talking about 2011 ball of the year............ 
 
BrianCRX90 wrote on 27/01/2012 8:22 PM:"ball of the year" and we are in January of 2012. Wtfing hell.



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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
Hmmm. This is truly a subjective topic. I for one have seen a ton of people throwing VG Nanos well! But I have also seen a ton of people throwing Gamebreakers, equally as well. The Nexxus and the Frantic have just started becoming popular around here. Not a whole lot of following for the, super-fantastic, over the top, Lane#1 pieces! I only know of two people who consistently use those balls, with great success, I must add.

 

I own a Cyclone, which is a high performance piece, sold at an entry level price. But Ball of the Year??? NOT! I can only use that ball on PBA sport pattern, or USBC pattern which I rarely see, unless I'm going to a tournament. Now if you throw your balls with 1.5 revs.....you might actually be able to use it.....provided your speed is in the 18-19mph range as well!

 

Overall, I'd have a real tough time calling out the Ball of the Year. I have seen an awful lot of people scoring well with Motiv pieces. And let's not forget about Track. 718A in this part of the world has been a hit! This is a very tough call.


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: ymiller on January 31, 2012, 06:24:53 AM
This is an easy one, have to go with the Motiv SIGMA TOUR. The one's that have tried this ball know this. Easy length, great midlane, tons of hitting power and just soooo versatile.... again, easy pick!!!!!!!

 

 


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Brandon Riley on February 08, 2012, 11:41:40 AM
Nexus Solid because of its hook potential, tremendous backend and consistency from shot to shot.  The Nano will be a close second.  But then again they are just 2 hook monsters and everybody wants to see that big dick reaction of stand left and pitch it right on a wall.

 

The ball that deserves to be discussed but I doubt will get the recognition it deserves is the Too Reckless.  Here is a ball that provides a reaction shape unlike anything on the market and in my opinion a necessity to a tournament bowler's bag.  Low RG symmetric solid so it rolls but doesn't squirt in carrydown, plus a length additive and polish to push it down the lane.  Not a big hooking ball, but if you own one of these you would agree that it is something special.

 

At the low end the Karma Solid has provided some impressive consistency and hook for the price point.  Its the lowest priced solid ball on the market but with some of the best performance I have seen for medium-dry lanes. 


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: ToiletLogCore on February 08, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
"For myself and several others I have seen I will have to go with the Track 503C. "

"Solaris BlackOut Super "

"This is an easy one, have to go with the Motiv SIGMA TOUR."

 

To the above "obvious" choices.  NO CHANCE!!!

Why you are asking? Because nobody throws them.


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: The Stroke on February 08, 2012, 11:54:25 AM
Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry? 
 



ymiller wrote on 1/31/2012 7:24 AM:
This is an easy one, have to go with the Motiv SIGMA TOUR. The one's that have tried this ball know this. Easy length, great midlane, tons of hitting power and just soooo versatile.... again, easy pick!!!!!!!


 


 




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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: Brandon Riley on February 08, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Too bad this wasn't facebook so I could "like" your comment 

But in all fairness that ball looks pretty good
 



The Stroke wrote on 08/02/2012 12:54 PM:
Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry? 
 






ymiller wrote on 1/31/2012 7:24 AM:

This is an easy one, have to go with the Motiv SIGMA TOUR. The one's that have tried this ball know this. Easy length, great midlane, tons of hitting power and just soooo versatile.... again, easy pick!!!!!!!



 



 




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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: charlest on February 08, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
I often wonder why people ask this question. Results depend more on many fans of which manufacturer post a reply than on the ball's capabilities: Storm fans vote for Storm balls, Brunswick fans vote for Brunswick balls, RG fans vote for RG balls, Lane#1 fans vote for Lane#1 balls, etc..
 
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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: spmcgivern on February 08, 2012, 12:54:28 PM
So the ball of the year HAS to be sold in every pro shop?  Is it only the most popular ball?

I agree sales has a lot to do with it; but performance of the ball, irregardless of sales, must play a large part also. 
 



The Stroke wrote on 2/8/2012 12:54 PM:
Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry?  
 

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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: NoseofRI on February 09, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
Actually, I would argue that, Yes, it would have to be sold in every pro shop. If the ball is truly THAT good, wouldn't every pro shop want to have it on its wall?
 



spmcgivern wrote on 2/8/2012 1:54 PM:
So the ball of the year HAS to be sold in every pro shop?  Is it only the most popular ball?


I agree sales has a lot to do with it; but performance of the ball, irregardless of sales, must play a large part also. 
 






The Stroke wrote on 2/8/2012 12:54 PM:

Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry?  
 

Toodles


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: spmcgivern on February 09, 2012, 03:07:08 PM
So what do you say about the shops that only sell Ebonite for special pricing?  Are we now limiting Ball of the Year to Ebonite only? 

 

Your conclusion would indicate a ball that is so good and sold in every shop because it truely is that good would have to be the only ball the pro shop would recommend.  After all, it is sooooooo good.

 

Bowling is too subjective to say the Ball of the Year has to be sold in every shop.  Many consumers trust the advice of their pro shop and the pro shop is going to push what benefits him the most.  
 



NoseofRI wrote on 2/9/2012 2:46 PM:
Actually, I would argue that, Yes, it would have to be sold in every pro shop. If the ball is truly THAT good, wouldn't every pro shop want to have it on its wall?
 






spmcgivern wrote on 2/8/2012 1:54 PM:

So the ball of the year HAS to be sold in every pro shop?  Is it only the most popular ball?



I agree sales has a lot to do with it; but performance of the ball, irregardless of sales, must play a large part also. 
 









The Stroke wrote on 2/8/2012 12:54 PM:


Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry?  
 

Toodles


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Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: NoseofRI on February 09, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
Actually a *good* proshop will push was benefits his customer the most.
 



spmcgivern wrote on 2/9/2012 4:07 PM:
So what do you say about the shops that only sell Ebonite for special pricing?  Are we now limiting Ball of the Year to Ebonite only? 


 


Your conclusion would indicate a ball that is so good and sold in every shop because it truely is that good would have to be the only ball the pro shop would recommend.  After all, it is sooooooo good.


 


Bowling is too subjective to say the Ball of the Year has to be sold in every shop.  Many consumers trust the advice of their pro shop and the pro shop is going to push what benefits him the most.  
 






NoseofRI wrote on 2/9/2012 2:46 PM:

Actually, I would argue that, Yes, it would have to be sold in every pro shop. If the ball is truly THAT good, wouldn't every pro shop want to have it on its wall?
 









spmcgivern wrote on 2/8/2012 1:54 PM:


So the ball of the year HAS to be sold in every pro shop?  Is it only the most popular ball?




I agree sales has a lot to do with it; but performance of the ball, irregardless of sales, must play a large part also. 
 












The Stroke wrote on 2/8/2012 12:54 PM:



Yeah ok.  The ball of the year is going to be a ball that most pro shops don't carry?  
 

Toodles


I am not a pro-bowler, but I do play one on BallReviews.com




I am not a pro-bowler, but I do play one on BallReviews.com


Title: Re: Ball of the year
Post by: NoseofRI on February 09, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Okay, so if you want to get so literal and mean EVERY SINGLE SHOP, then no. But I would argue that the majority of shops should sell the ball, and I could almost guarantee the majority of shops aren't selling motiv.

 

And not true about it being the only ball they'd recommend.  For example, when the Ball of the Year was the Virtual Gravity, no one should ever have recommended that for dry lanes to a customer, because no matter how good the ball was, it wouldn't work there. 

 

And you are correct, bowling is too subjective for a question like this. However, for someone to come on here and say "without a doubt ______" when it's a ball very few, if any, pros are throwing them and very few amateurs are throwing them, and hardly any shops carry a full stock of them is kind of absurd to me.

 

If the ball truly is that good it'll be on the shelves in ALMOST all pro shops (minus any brand exclusive shops just to keep things clear).
 



spmcgivern wrote on 2/9/2012 4:07 PM:
So what do you say about the shops that only sell Ebonite for special pricing?  Are we now limiting Ball of the Year to Ebonite only? 


 


Your conclusion would indicate a ball that is so good and sold in every shop because it truly is that good would have to be the only ball the pro shop would recommend.  After all, it is sooooooo good.


 


Bowling is too subjective to say the Ball of the Year has to be sold in every shop.  Many consumers trust the advice of their pro shop and the pro shop is going to push what benefits him the most.