BallReviews
General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: luv2bowl12xs on April 17, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
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just my opinion but i dont want everyone to edit out all the bad shots and just leave the strikes i want to see every shot thrown with the ball. no one is gonna throw the ball the same and hit your mark everytime i wanna see how the reaction when you miss left and miss right and everthring in between. HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT?
EVERY ONE TUGS THE BALL SO BY SEEING EVERY SHOT HOW IS THAT GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE BOWLER ITS GONNA GIVE YOU A MORE REALISTIC LOOK AT THE SHOT FOR SHOT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BALL
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Do you really want to see someone yank the ball through the nose? What does that tell you about the ball and how it reacts? There are a lot of shots shown that get to the pocket from missing left and right, the shots edited out are BIG misses that get nowhere near the pocket.
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what does the person striking every shot tell you that they threw a million shots and edited 3 or 4 mins worth of strikes. bowl one game and let me see all the shots
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that would tell you more about the bowler not the ball
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that would tell you more about the bowler not the ball
Precisely!
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ball reaction videos are pointless anyway the ball isnt gonna react like it is for him EVERYBALL LOOKS GOOD WHEN ITS STRIKING DUH
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EVERY ONE TUGS THE BALL SO BY SEEING EVERY SHOT HOW IS THAT GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE BOWLER ITS GONNA GIVE YOU A MORE REALISTIC LOOK AT THE SHOT FOR SHOT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BALL
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I would rather see a couple of shots with the ball in question along with balls near it in the lineup thrown on the same shot.
But in reality, we are all guessing when we buy bowling balls.
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I'd like to see strikes, but not perfect shots on every throw. Can see how the ball holds or recovers on not perfect shot, but still slams the pocket. I also like to see different styles, like how bowlingball.com and Hammer does it, versus only one style or just one bowler. Like to see the oil pattern overlay too, and using different oil patterns, not just THS.
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the bowler miss their target in the video anyway. theyll miss 2 in or out, throw it slower, hit up on it.....if the bowler misses their target every shot you wont get a consistant reaction anyway so whats the point.
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Honestly, we all know that not every shot is a strike. Some people would like to see all the shots, and there's pros and cons to that. It's hard to get a read off a bad shot, however, it IS beneficial to see how a ball will react on poorly thrown shots, some do react better than others. If thrown wide, will it come back? If tugged, will it hold? If dumped, will it keep from rolling out? I might like to see all shots thrown with commentary or at least identification, I.E., this is a good shot, this was right of target, left of target, got fast, got slow, etc.
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On the last two videos I show my first throws with the ball til I find the pocket. In my Korrupt video I did each lanes' throws in order and you'll see I didn't played each lane exactly the same boards. I have plenty of video by the end of the 2nd game to do a 2min video. I have some ideas for the summer that I think guys will like but will I have the time to do them. :-X
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I want to every shot...
They make me feel like its something wrong with me because I dont strike all the time :'(
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Completely agree; I voted showing ALL shots.
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I voted pocket shots.
Why? Not every ball is going to be thrown the same way, and we know that. But the pocket shot helps because that tells us how the ball would react if given a bit more room or a bit less room on the given pattern. So knowing that would help, especially when the pattern starts to break down.
Either way, the poll is a bit subjective, because not everyone is going to have the same layout, pitch, etc. This is the reason why I've enjoyed Hammer's videos of recent, because they show a team of bowlers, with different layouts, different ball motion, and different lines to the pocket.
A missing option: lane patterns. I would love to see how a given ball would react on different patterns. It gets boring seeing a new ball being reviewed or taped on a THS, or something like Kegel's Easy Street pattern. Show me something like a Challenge pattern (Middle Road), Sport pattern, or something like the USBC Open pattern, and then we'll see what the ball can do.
BL.
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A missing option: lane patterns. I would love to see how a given ball would react on different patterns. It gets boring seeing a new ball being reviewed or taped on a THS, or something like Kegel's Easy Street pattern. Show me something like a Challenge pattern (Middle Road), Sport pattern, or something like the USBC Open pattern, and then we'll see what the ball can do.
BL.
While I completely agree, not everyone has access or the connections at a center to put out a specific shot just to put together a video.
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I've only done 2 videos, both for the reax. I edited it down to show pocket hits. I showed every ringing 10, every flat 10, etc... Nobody wants to see how a ball reacts when it's pulled 5 boards left of target and going brooklyn, or a dumped shot that crushes the 3-6 pocket. It doesn't show anything as far as ball reaction. I want to see what the ball does when it's somewhere close to target, miss a couple boards in...did it hold, miss a couple out dose it recover? I'm seriously confused why so many people want to see horrid shots in a ball reaction video.
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YOU WANT TO SEE A REALISTIC VIDEO!!!! WATCHING SOMEONE STRIKE EVERY SHOT DOESNT TELL YOU ANYTHING AT ALL.
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Well we will just have to agree to disagree then because a poor shot tells me nothing about ball reaction.
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Well we will just have to agree to disagree then because a poor shot tells me nothing about ball reaction.
I have to agree with this.
Ball reaction tells you nothing if a bowler's elbow comes out, causing them to pull the ball left. Nor does it do any good if a bowler misses their target completely. That's why I voted for pocket shots, because at least the bowler would have be +/- 2 or 3 boards either side to see how the ball would react over a drier part of the lane, or where there may be more oil.
While I completely agree, not everyone has access or the connections at a center to put out a specific shot just to put together a video.
True, but if they do have the right tools (read: Kegel machine), it wouldn't hurt to ask. The patterns are on their site; they could easily load them and push that onto a lane..
But it wouldn't even take that to change the pattern. Even a pattern that broke down or was in transition would help as well. Even the slightest change, would be a change.
BL.
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Okay, here is my video for the REAX that I did. I just started doing these so it's not the best.
I show pocket shots, left a few 10 pin leaves in there. You'll see that I probably don't hit the same spot twice. And trust me there were plenty of bad shots that I decided not to show because they were terrible. I don't pretend to be a great bowler, just an average one, though I'm trying to improve.
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I voted for all shots thrown. Yes, everyone throws it different and has different stats but I would like to see if someone throws it out too far or pulls it in a little bit. I want to see how the ball is going to react. Like is it going to stay way out and not come back at all? Or if it is pulled, is it just going to go brooklyn or try to hold down lane? Just my 2cents.