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charlest

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Ball rejuvenator
« on: March 10, 2013, 03:01:59 PM »
May I unashamedy recommend a new ball rejuvenator invented by a bowling friend. It's a ball oven called the NuBall. I have one and have been trying it for the past 2 weeks. It extracts oil from balls via heat applied with a fan to circulate the heat via a thermostat (ranging from 95 to 155 degrees; recommended temp is 135 degrees Fahrenheit).

Please check out the information on their website:
http://www.scbp.biz
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the product can be purchased through Amazon via
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BCQ0YG6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

Please be aware that the price listed currently ($169.95 +$20 shipping) will soon be raised, as it is a very low introductory price.
(FYI This is not mine: I am not selling it. I am recommending it.)

I have been told to add this about the warranty which will be added to the NuBall when it is shipped:

NuBall should be very difficult to damage.  If any part of NuBall is accidentally damaged, replacements for all broken parts will be sent for the asking. 
 
More possible is that the top (fan, heater, thermostat etc) might stop working.  If so I will send them a new top section.  I will not send a whole replacement machine - I will replace only the part(s) damaged or not working.
 
Both statements are good for two years from the date of purchase.  The company phone number and email address can be found on the back page of the Operating Instructions.

« Last Edit: March 10, 2013, 07:25:45 PM by charlest »
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2013, 05:58:58 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on March 19, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
Yea, I'm tired of that extra dishwasher taking up so much room. Now I can sell it on craigslist for the $100 I paid for it a few years ago. LOL

The problem with a dishwasher is you have to wait at least a day to let the ball dry out. I love this product, and would pay the $189.00 for it again. $279 plus shipping seems a stretch though.

And I completely agree about how much you maintain your equipment relating to needing this or not. I don't worry about my practice stuff, and they just poured oil. My regular rotation balls get cleaned after every use and didn't show a drop.

Quote from: Steven on March 19, 2013, 02:09:32 PM

Milo, you bought one too?? I though you were happy with your dedicated ball dishwasher.


$100 bump already? Wow, I guess they were serious about the introductory low price. I'll agree that the build quality could be more refined, but it does what it's supposed to. As long as the fan and thermostat work, the NuBall unit should have a long life. I've already run 15 balls through the process, so in many ways I've got some significant pay back.


What I've found interesting is that the balls I fanatically maintain extracted no oil. None. The second tier practice balls that I give a quick cleaning once over before throwing in the bag extracted a lot of oil. My Lane#1 Time-bomb took two sessions to get completely de-oiled. 


For bowlers who do little or nothing to maintain their equipment (the vast majority), NuBall is worth the investment. If you follow a regular intense cleaning regimen you'll continue with regardless, you may not see the full cost/benefit.   

Curious as to why it takes so long for ball to dry out.  Mine are ready to go after an hour.  I run mine thru the normal 90 minute cycle with no "Sanitize" or heated drying.  Rinse water is as hot as water tank and balls dry out quickly for me.  I do take a towel and dry them and then sit them with holes down. 
$289 for a glorified food dehydrator?  I'll stick to my method.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2013, 06:29:27 PM »
Have you tried weighing the ball before running it through the dishwasher and again afterwards?

I've found that it takes up to 24 hours for the weight to come back down at room temp. I only tested it a couple of times though.

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Quote from: milorafferty on March 19, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
Yea, I'm tired of that extra dishwasher taking up so much room. Now I can sell it on craigslist for the $100 I paid for it a few years ago. LOL

The problem with a dishwasher is you have to wait at least a day to let the ball dry out. I love this product, and would pay the $189.00 for it again. $279 plus shipping seems a stretch though.

And I completely agree about how much you maintain your equipment relating to needing this or not. I don't worry about my practice stuff, and they just poured oil. My regular rotation balls get cleaned after every use and didn't show a drop.

Quote from: Steven on March 19, 2013, 02:09:32 PM

Milo, you bought one too?? I though you were happy with your dedicated ball dishwasher.


$100 bump already? Wow, I guess they were serious about the introductory low price. I'll agree that the build quality could be more refined, but it does what it's supposed to. As long as the fan and thermostat work, the NuBall unit should have a long life. I've already run 15 balls through the process, so in many ways I've got some significant pay back.


What I've found interesting is that the balls I fanatically maintain extracted no oil. None. The second tier practice balls that I give a quick cleaning once over before throwing in the bag extracted a lot of oil. My Lane#1 Time-bomb took two sessions to get completely de-oiled. 


For bowlers who do little or nothing to maintain their equipment (the vast majority), NuBall is worth the investment. If you follow a regular intense cleaning regimen you'll continue with regardless, you may not see the full cost/benefit.   

Curious as to why it takes so long for ball to dry out.  Mine are ready to go after an hour.  I run mine thru the normal 90 minute cycle with no "Sanitize" or heated drying.  Rinse water is as hot as water tank and balls dry out quickly for me.  I do take a towel and dry them and then sit them with holes down. 
$289 for a glorified food dehydrator?  I'll stick to my method.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2013, 07:01:44 PM »
I don't have a scale that would be accurate enough.  How much difference did you see?
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2013, 07:44:46 PM »
A 15lb ball will hold 4 to 6 ozs
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« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2013, 10:14:35 PM »
I've always done the procedure a couple of days before next bowling session so it's never been an issue.  Interesting.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2013, 05:25:04 AM »
I was asked not to say anything by the topic originator but buy the gander mountain unit (or any unit) bust the centers of the trays out and you are all set.  I added 2 trays to mine, which were 12 bucks a piece at bed bath beyond.  You can also take a 5 gallon pail and use that in the center. For those that dont want to spend the 250 plus this way will save you cash and work just as well.  Even check this from 2010  this guy used a planter pot and dehydrator top.  http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/homemade-ball-oven-t248166.0.html
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2013, 09:10:19 AM »
Quote from: PJM300 on March 20, 2013, 05:25:04 AM
I was asked not to say anything by the topic originator but buy the gander mountain unit (or any unit) bust the centers of the trays out and you are all set.  I added 2 trays to mine, which were 12 bucks a piece at bed bath beyond.  You can also take a 5 gallon pail and use that in the center. For those that dont want to spend the 250 plus this way will save you cash and work just as well.  Even check this from 2010  this guy used a planter pot and dehydrator top.  http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/homemade-ball-oven-t248166.0.html

I didn't ask you not say anything. I asked you not to sell/promote a different unit in this thread.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2013, 11:53:21 AM »
I have some questions for those that have used this product:
 
What do you do with the finger grips? Do you remove them before putting the ball in the unit? Also wouldn't it hurt the thumb slug or outer sleeve of a switch grip? Do you have to remove these as well?
 
Just curious as I have always thought about trying this process, but never have. And I would love to have one of these at home if it isn't too much of a hassle with the grips/slugs/sleeves. Also going to try and get our local pro shop interested in it too.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2013, 11:59:36 AM »
I don't take them out, I just set the ball in the unit with the finger holes at the bottom(although I doubt that it makes a difference where the holes are placed).

I have finger inserts and the Vise IT in everything I own. I take the interchangeable part of the IT out, but the sleeve remains. I have seen no ill effect from any method of oil extraction while leaving them in.

Quote from: Jorge300 on March 20, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
I have some questions for those that have used this product:
 
What do you do with the finger grips? Do you remove them before putting the ball in the unit? Also wouldn't it hurt the thumb slug or outer sleeve of a switch grip? Do you have to remove these as well?
 
Just curious as I have always thought about trying this process, but never have. And I would love to have one of these at home if it isn't too much of a hassle with the grips/slugs/sleeves. Also going to try and get our local pro shop interested in it too.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2013, 12:06:33 PM »
Jorge, at the recommended 135 degree temperature, finger grips as well as the plastic in Switch Grip and IT System thumb components aren't affected. The ball gets warm, but not hot enough to worry about damaging or melting plastic/rubber pieces. Even for past balls I've run through the proshop's Rejuvinator at higher temperatures, I never had issues.


I've run 21 balls through NuBall so far, and I've practiced with a handful of them to test post-bake reaction. I have nothing negative to report. The nicest thing is that it's much less hassle than hot water and other extraction methods I've used.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2013, 12:14:34 PM »
Milo, Steven,
    Thanks for the insights. I wasn't sure. I have done hot water baths in the past, but haven't found them to be very successful. I am very interested in this product. I appreciate you taking the time.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2013, 12:20:03 PM »
Quote from: charlest on March 19, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: nospareball on March 19, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Looks like he took a dehydrator top from that Gander mountain link and rebranded it.  Clever

Don't make assumptions.
That is not what was done.

I admit that I was tempted to go the dehydrator route after seeing the picture of the top and bottom of the Gander Mountain unit looking almost exactly like the NuBall unit.  If the NuBall element isn't just a rebranded dehydrator unit, it might be useful as to explain how it is different as perhaps a selling point to getting the NuBall instead?  Just a thought.

For me, I did end up purchasing the NuBall unit at $170 (it's still en route, so I can't give a review yet).  It was a bit more expensive than the dehydrator setup would have been, but I wanted to throw the guy some business for making an affordable option for home use and didn't want to have to manufacturer my own cup and middle section and deal the jagged edges of the cut outs on the middle trays of the dehydrator.

At $280 though, I definitely would have passed though.  That would have been too high of a price point for me.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2013, 12:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Jorge300 on March 20, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Milo, Steven,
    Thanks for the insights. I wasn't sure. I have done hot water baths in the past, but haven't found them to be very successful. I am very interested in this product. I appreciate you taking the time.


I have the same thoughts on hot water baths. No matter how hot I got the water, I never did see an appreciable oil film rise to the surface. I never experienced the noticeable improvements in reaction I get with controlled dry heat. And I was never convinced that some minute amounts of water soaked into the cover. More than anything else it's a big hassle.


Using Motiv Scuff as oil extraction compound is very effective. It's definitely more effective and easier to do that hot baths, but still more work than NuBall.
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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2013, 12:56:31 PM »
Bowlers are cheap. I am cheap, or as a friend referred to me, "frugal".  But what I don't understand is why most bowlers don't mind spending around $200 for a new bowling ball each or every other month, but they balk at spending about that same amount on an item that will last for years - items like a ball spinner, or a top end pair of bowling shoes or in this case, a personal rejuvenator.

Yes, I'm frugal with my money being a retiree, but when someone is selling something designed for bowling at a pricepoint far below what was previously available, I am willing to give them some business to help encourage other items becoming available. When I purchased my ball spinner, there were no personal ones on the market, only the ones made for proshops so it was a bit pricier but at the time, I considered it a good investment.  Same with the NuBall - it will be a good investment for a serious bowler.  Both the ball spinner and the NuBall will entend the life or versatility of your bowling balls.

Sorry for the rant.

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Re: Ball rejuvenator
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2013, 01:05:30 PM »
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on March 20, 2013, 12:56:31 PM
most bowlers don't mind spending around $200 for a new bowling ball each or every other month, but they balk at spending about that same amount on an item that will last for years




I am all for this and like the idea, but honestly is there any proof this will last years? Has anyone tested the longevity of this product?
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