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edpup316

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ball speed and drilling
« on: October 09, 2012, 01:33:38 AM »
How much of an effect does your ball speed have on what layout you put on a ball? Say two guys(or girls) have the same ball and they both want it skid and flip hard(hockey stick) but one throws it 14 and the other thows it 19. How much different are their layouts going to look? And we will assume that they have the avg rev rate for how fast they throw the ball so I think 14 is like 240ish revs and 19 is like 380 i think. Im sure someone can correct that but anyways i hope you guys get what im trying to ask. Thanks

 

charlest

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Re: ball speed and drilling
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 08:03:49 AM »
If they have average rev rate for their ball speed, that is one of the important factors in using dual angles: matched rev rate in relation to ball speed. Bigger differences come into play when people have a higher rev rate for a lower ball speed OR a lower rev rate for higher ball speeds.

If they had the same rev rate for the different ball speeds you quoted, then the higher ball speed would usually use a shorter (for more flare) pin-PAP distance and a smaller VAL angle (for a sharper breakpoint). Possibly the higher ball speed would use a smaller Drill angle (for an earlier breakpoint or to get the ball into a roll sooner).

But other factors come into play like tilt, angle of rotation and specs of the actual ball involved as well as the oil amount & pattern.
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Rightycomplex

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Re: ball speed and drilling
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 08:14:34 AM »
Laying out for someone is one of the most difficult thing to do in the pro shop only because it deals with customer service. One of the biggest things ive dealt with in my shop is explaining why with dual angles im giving them the same layout as bowler B but the layouts look different.

Speed plays a vital roll in pin placement, dealing with flare. For someone with a lower speed will have a longer pin to pap whereas the high speed will have a shorter pin. Matching up with the rev rate will also play a key factor. Someone with a high ball speed but revs to match will have bigger drill sums than someone without the revs to match. Same applies will lower ball speed. Obviously, low speed and high revs mean bigger drill sums and vice versa. The bigger problem is drilling for someone you've never seen bowl before.

To answer you scenario, with the 14 mph bowler, I'd go with no less than 5" (no more than 3" on asym) and depending on axis rotation and tilt would determine whether they need the ball to transition faster or slower and determine the angles. Same rules apply with the 19 mph bowler. You would generally go with a shorter pin to pap (or longer in the case of asyms) to get the ball to flare more and get the ball started sooner. And as applied above, rev rate, axis rotation, and tilt will determine the transition of the ball.
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