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SirAshley

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Calling all top guns!
« on: March 28, 2005, 01:04:15 PM »
okay I have a question for all of you. What do you guys aim for when the ball is released and what are you looking at when the ball is being released. I am just interested because I have heard so many different things on this and I was wondering which way is the best. I average 190 right now and to tell you the truth up until 2 nights ago, I was looking straight down at my hand during the point of release. A friend of mine happen to bring it to my attention and I realized that I have never paid attention. I mean, I aim, but I don't look down the lane. Is this something others do? The last game I began to try to look down the lane and a few mis-fires aside I was putting it right on the mark alot more consistently. Well, any and all suggestions welcome...thanks in advance
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 09:05:58 PM »
I look at the first set of dots on the lane. Before the arrows.
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SirAshley

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 09:06:58 PM »
that it exactly what I began to look at. Those first set of dots. I felt like it made a huge difference
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 09:09:55 PM »
I'm HARDLY a "top gun" but as you've found, I score MUCH better by aiming at the dots.  I had a terrible slump this year, and putting my form (which had regressed greatly) aside, a big problem I realized was that I didn't aim.  I would get on the approach and look at my mark, but I didn't continue staring at it during my approach.  I'm working on my form to get it back to what it was, but the aiming thing alone is helping my scores back up.
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2005, 09:10:02 PM »
it works for me. A long time back, I used to look right at the pins, then I started to look at the arrows, then I moved to what I do now. I feel like it is the best for me.
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Hex017

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2005, 09:10:51 PM »
That is good then, I am certainly no top gun but if you can teach yourself to aim using the dots,arrows, and even the pins you can adjust your ball reaction simply by moving your eyes. It is more of an advanced trick but by looking at the dots you will lay the ball down earlier/faster,giving you earlier roll which is great for heavier oiled lanes, and by looking down farther,pins or arrows you can increase your length by lofting it a little or simply pushing it out farther. There is no real right thing to look at, there is a PBA player that looks at the relflection of the pins down the lane as his mark. Just whatever makes you most consistent, try looking at all different things and see for yourself.
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2005, 09:10:53 PM »
I target both a board at the arrows and 2 boards at the breakpoint. Dry lanes, I just target the breakpoint. Spares, target the shadow of the pins.
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2005, 09:11:29 PM »
Its different for everyone. I can tell you this though, you should not look at your hand. You will have NO consistency is where the ball goes on the lane. I used to look right at the foul line, now I look at the arrows. Arrows seem to be the "general" place where most people look. There are exceptions though, I've heard a lot of people say they look at their breakpoint, if they need to get the ball downlane farther before it turns.
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230-n-up-or-bust

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2005, 09:24:43 PM »
I have several factors involved in ball delivery.

1) Ball location at the arrows.  Gotta be within a board or so or you're fooling yourself once you get to tournaments.

2) Breakpoint.  Ttry to maintain a location down the lane where the ball begins it's path to the pocket.

3) Attitude.  Not me, the ball.  Is the ball making enough energy in the last five feet to create a good scoring opportunity.

4) Speed.  Try to be within .3-.4 mph throughout the night.  This might be tough if you don't have a center that is able to calculate ball speed.  If there is not, do everything you can to keep an even rhythm all night.

This is my .02.  Hope it helps.
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stanski

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2005, 09:35:01 PM »
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1) Ball location at the arrows.  Gotta be within a board or so or you're fooling yourself once you get to tournaments.




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I always find this to be the biggest misconception out there. Anyone can hit a target 5 feet in front of them, but if they are not hitting it the same way every time, they might as well not hit the spot. I'm not trying to disagree that you have to be somewhat accurate at the arrows, but I think the key thing is to be accurate at the breakpoint. I know that you know this, as you are a good bowler, but often people here this and think "man, i hit my damn spot every time and it goes a different place every time."

Some of the best bowlers I have ever met were area bowlers. They picked out a 2-3 board area at the breakpoint and threw at it. I adapted this to my game, which is spot bowling at the arrows, and I think I have the best of both worlds.
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SirAshley

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2005, 09:35:41 PM »
I never meant to eliminate anyone, I was just trying to grab attention and I appreciate all the feedback cause opinions are like...well let's just say everyone has one... I do however appreciate all the feedback, especially because I have a lesson tomorrow  so I'm going to talk that over with my coach..
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2005, 09:40:51 PM »
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1) Ball location at the arrows.  Gotta be within a board or so or you're fooling yourself once you get to tournaments.




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I always find this to be the biggest misconception out there. Anyone can hit a target 5 feet in front of them, but if they are not hitting it the same way every time, they might as well not hit the spot. I'm not trying to disagree that you have to be somewhat accurate at the arrows, but I think the key thing is to be accurate at the breakpoint. I know that you know this, as you are a good bowler, but often people here this and think "man, i hit my damn spot every time and it goes a different place every time."

Some of the best bowlers I have ever met were area bowlers. They picked out a 2-3 board area at the breakpoint and threw at it. I adapted this to my game, which is spot bowling at the arrows, and I think I have the best of both worlds.
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I know what you mean stanski.

I'm, by no means, perfect.  Nobody's gonna nail me to a cross when I die and I won't have a coin made to commemorate my liftime achievements.  I think you need a fair amount of all of those factors I've pointed out to be able to score well.  There's all sorts of ways to get your ball to that magical "happy place" known as the breakpoint.  The tougher the condition, the more emphasis you must place on placement on several portions of the lanes, especially as lanes transition.
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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2005, 11:47:04 PM »
I will look at various parts on the lane.  To start off I will look at the arrows.  I don't like the dots because I need to project the ball more and the dots causes more of a "dig".  I will draw a visual path with my eyes of where I want my ball to get downlane.  If I am having a problem getting the ball where i want I will just look at my breakpoint.  Looking down the lane helps you clean the heads a little better and will help open up the lane usually.

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L o G

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Re: Calling all top guns!
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2005, 01:14:12 AM »
I usally look at the arrows.  The only problem (well not really a problem) is that your target gets further down the lane the deeper you play because the arrows move up, which is kinda good because when you look further down you get less hook intern helps because most likely the reason your are moving deepr is your ball is hooking too much.  If it gets to the point where the ball is hooking to much I will start targeting my breakpoint to cut my hook and it also helps project the ball better.
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