I recently drilled a Motiv Raptor for a high speed, high tilt, high rotation cranker and it worked out great. I used a strong layout and he moved about 8 and 3 left compared to his original Black Widow. He's had the Widow since they first came out and I don't know if he's ever done oil removal, so that might not be a fair comparison. But even so, the Raptor was impressive. -- JohnP