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Dakota

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Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« on: February 28, 2011, 09:08:58 PM »
 

Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc


 


Hi All – The ball manufacturers publish ball specs with surface rating at 1000/2000, etc.  What is the advantage of resurfacing a piece from 180 to 360 to 500 to 1000 to 2000 to 4000?  I tried this formula on a Dimension 1 with great success. Was that a one time occurrence or is there something to this type of ball surface preparation? What does it do? This experiment was by hand and not with a spinner.


 


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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 06:19:28 AM »
Hopefully Charlest will chime in on this one, but for me I only break out anything below 500 when I need a true resurfacing and I need to open the pores for the hot water bath.

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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 06:27:27 AM »
180 and 360 grit to me is a bit extreme even for a resurface. i dont think ive seen a manufacture go below 500 on factory surfaces. in my opinion people use 360 and 180 on balls that they want to create a urethane like reaction in a resin ball. the result will be a ball that burns up early and controls the backends. just stronger than a urethane coverstock. unless youre on a complete flood that is what youre going to get. once you get that dull and use 1000/2000/4000 etc on top of it i dont see much of a difference from starting with 500grit

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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 07:33:07 AM »
As far as I am concerned, using a 180 and 360 grit pad is required only when the ball is tracked out, which must be a very rare occurrence these days. Mostly because balls are very sensitive to surface and most will show changes in reaction long before being tracked out.
 
Even when a ball is not oil soaked but is showing reaction changes, refreshing the surface often calls for a 500 grit pad at most to start the process. For 95%+ balls sanding it with a 500 grit pad, using something like Clean and Dull as a lubricant, is more than enough to restore life to a ball.  Then taking to the ball to the proper grit level, whether it being going directly to a 4000 grit pad or using every intermediate grit level (1000, 2000) before the 4000 grit pad.
 
Heck, in fact, many time it is not absolutely necessary to go down to 500 grit, unless the Ra really needs to be restored from scratch.
 
That said, RG and Storm's new covers seem to need serious refreshing almost every 10-12 games. So users of the Theories and Nanos should be warned their reactions may deteriorate rather quickly, unless they are diligent in maintenance.


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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 09:02:29 AM »
The reason for increasing grit in sequence is that each grit leaves finer and finer scratches on the ball.  180 would leave coarse scratches, then 360 would remove them and leave finer scratches, continuing until the final grit.  If you're going to a rougher finish you don't need to go in stages, you can go straight to the final grit.  Some balls now are finished by skipping one or more grits, example - 500/2000.  The objective with these finishes is to leave fairly coarse scratches, then round off the top of the scratches.  --  JohnP


 
Edited by JohnP on 3/1/2011 at 10:04 AM

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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 09:41:54 AM »
I do all the resurfacing in my house and alot of the guys are a bit on the cheap side and out house is hard on equipment but I have gone as low as 80 to get out a deep track just requires a little longer with the 180 and 220 and 320  and 400 then i move into the abralon I found some 80 grit wet sand paper that works well. I go threw my steps and I have no sanding marks and a flawless finish. The other thing i do is on a ball with a bunch of lane marks in it is fill in the craters with the 2 stage 5 min epoxy sounds like it wouldnt hold but I still havnt had a fill fall out and have filled in spots the size of a 50 cent piece. Like I said the people around here dont buy alot of new equipment and I have to work with what I have.


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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 11:23:55 AM »
Everybody provide great answers that I agree with...

 

180 - 500 sand will burn up really fast

 

shocked that people really go that low and thought it would destroy the ball


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Re: Ball Surface Adjustments Abralon 180, 360, 500, etc
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »
I have never had a problem keeping reaction after going that low if anything going that low seems like it open up the pores a bit. I have done atleast 100 balls like this and every one has reacted well. the only problem company I have had on getting box reaction back is storm that is one I have problems achieving out of box reaction. I only use one type of polish also I use ultimate black magic and always get the reaction I want.


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