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Smash49

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Balls made in China
« on: January 06, 2008, 02:09:49 AM »
Lately I have had people refusing to buy Chinese made bowling balls.  I can not argue with them and really I am in agreement with them.  The new Columbia White Dots are now made in China.  I looked around the shop as to where things are made.  A good majority are made in China, bags and shoes.  With all the press lately about the Chinese and lead in toys, poisoning our medicine, pet food and drugs I really do not want to buy anything made in China.  I think someone also forgot to mention to companies that China is communist!  It may be about making things cheaper but people are now looking at American safety and jobs!  


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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 05:20:03 PM »
actually the bowling industry is quite a tight circle.
as long as all major brands agree not to outsource, there would not be such a problem in existent.
its possible but as a business they care about beating their competitors rather than the sport itself.
sad but true
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2008, 05:36:52 PM »
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its very sad how politics has poluted american minds to direct hate against products made against a country.
its like japan refusing to buy beef from the US because they said that cows in america are poisonous.

it is a tactic in international trade a government uses to "boycott" products from a country for multiple reasons like how china refuses to allow their dollar to inflate.
well the logic is in every business / international trade text book
that shows how many people in this forum read
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Smash49

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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2008, 05:52:43 PM »
It's not really a stupid topic.  It's becoming more of a trend.  People are talking about leaving products on the shelves of Walmart and other retailers because they are made in China.  Outsourcing someones job is bad because without a job it doesn't matter how cheap something is you still cannot afford it.  My grandfather was a shoemaker.  Where is the American shoemaking industry now???  Young people by the time they decide what they want to do with their lives it will be outsourced to some foreign country.  The "oh they will find something else to do" really stinks.  This is becoming an issue besides saving $20.  I spoke with someone from Detroit the other day and he said it is becoming a problem.

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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2008, 06:38:12 PM »
We  are going to pay the extra $20.00 one way or the other.If we don't buy it from China we will have to support the people here that can't find a job or afford a home.It also drives up our cost of gasoline and other oil related products.We have already been told that our prices are higher because of higher demand,mostly from China.If China was willing in import as much stuff from the USA as it expects the USA to import from them,this might not be as big of a problem.They refuse,and our politicial leaders just say OK and let them do whatever they want.We are giving this country away piece by piece.
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2008, 06:48:27 PM »
I would say that in about 3 years you will see a china based company selling equipment at 1/2 of what current ball manufacturers sell there equipment at. It is going to present a major problem if you can buy equipment just as good as any US company can make it at 1/2 the price.

Right now ALL plastic balls are made overseas. As for bags I do not believe there is one company that makes bags here, now KR does but everything they buy is from china as well. Get ready fellas to start speaking chinese so you can read the name of your next bowling ball.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2008, 07:38:16 PM »
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Best not buy or play any major brand golf clubs then.  Majority of the heads are made in foundries in China.
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scott, so right,  major golf brands have benn made in China for years.
in 1996, i received as a gift a brand new Taylor ti 11 driver.  at that time, it was their top model,  it was made in China.
my dad had the Taylor Ti 1 driver,  also made in China.
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2008, 07:40:35 PM »
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if you dislike buying balls made in china then i would hope you don't buy balls made in mexico cause Brunswick cost more American people jobs moving down cross the boarder then all the plastic balls being made over in china are




i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first,  it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.
second reason,  i love Chinese food!!!!

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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 07:44:29 PM »
i have not noticed any Maxim's with the made in China stamped on them.
have only seen white dots, with Made in China stamped on them.
don't know for sure, but we have received orders for both models.  and have not noticed any Maxim's yet,  made in China.

but i will say this,  the new white dot colors are awesome!!!!!

and i will say this,  we seem to be doing well with the new T-zones also!!!
and their colors seem to be well received!!!

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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 07:45:05 PM »
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.


Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 07:55:18 PM »
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.


Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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yes,  most are assemabled here in the US,  i have noticed a few assemabled there,  but i would agree most are assemabled here.



now back to the balls,  i clearly see made in China on white dots,  but i can not recall ever seeing made in Mexico on a T-zone, or for that matter, any Brunswick ball.  is this possible?  
T-zone navy gold, i do not believe any marking was on the ball saying it is made in Mexico.  or maybe ia mblind in one eye and can't see out the other.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 08:08:49 PM »
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.


Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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yes,  most are assemabled here in the US,  i have noticed a few assemabled there,  but i would agree most are assemabled here.



now back to the balls,  i clearly see made in China on white dots,  but i can not recall ever seeing made in Mexico on a T-zone, or for that matter, any Brunswick ball.  is this possible?  
T-zone navy gold, i do not believe any marking was on the ball saying it is made in Mexico.  or maybe ia mblind in one eye and can't see out the other.




There must be a logical reason "Made in Mexico" is not on any brunswick ball.
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the truth,  I don't really know,  all i am saying is that, it is very clear on the white dots,  the "made in China"   but i can not seem to remember seeing it on a T-zone or any Brunswick ball???  don't know the reason, if that is indeed the case.  first thing monday,  i am going to check out a T-zone and a twisted, to see.
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 10:08:27 PM »
I know I have seen numerous ball boxes with MADE IN MEXICO on them but don't know for sure about the balls themselves.
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2008, 12:33:36 AM »
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born and raised in california. why?

i think this post is getting a little... political and tricky >_> just how we all like it


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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2008, 12:55:23 AM »
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this post is kinda stupid

first, does the chinese companies choose to be communist? in the states u can choose, thats not an option in china

second, im chinese, and i think the companies who have their plastic balls made in china is a good move, costs are way lower and lower price for everyone. if u cant take that, throw ur 200 dollar BW to the 10 pin. or pay 50 for the chinese made plastic ball.

last, u think its hard to make a living out of pro shop? go to china and see how much the labour are getting paid to make ur stupid 50 dollar plastic balls, they have a hard time bringing food to the table so they have to that crappy job so americans can play throwing a ball into pins.

the day that all the plastic balls are made in china, i wanna see whos goin to complain, and if ppl goin to buy a $50 for a made in china or a $70 made in us
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Re: Balls made in China
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2008, 10:50:59 AM »
guys guys, u r blaming the chinese companies to make the balls, when u should be thinking whats causing it


let me again point out few facts.

china has problem putting all the kids into school, thats not a problem that i can see in the US

at primary school and high school, kids are working on their homework at least 3 hrs after arriving from a whole day at the institution, and during the period of exams, they dont sleep more than 6 hrs in order to attain higher score so they can go to a better rated high school/university.

if u have a chance to visit china, u might see kids wearing school uniform on their knees on the street asking u to support them to buy some books, and personally i ve seen someone with great grades.

now, imagine if all these education problems doesnt exist in China. u think will be the chinese companies can make bowling balls for such a cheap labour cost?

my point is that when americans got more educated, they started to ask more from their employer, and the ones who has a good university degree will have less of a hassle finding a job. But then what happens with the ones without good education? well im sorry for those who dropped out of college/university or those who didnt even get into one, because thats the price of living in an advanced country and not being able to catch up with the pace.
So, then what happens when the educated americans who owns the bowling ball companies say, why im doing a favor for the losers in my country and bring our company down? lets just make our products in a country with a population less educated and hardworking, by doing this, cheaper balls for us and for the customer.

do i make myself clear? or should i put this in a easier way?
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on second edit:

Scoot, yea i do understand that some good bowlers can do that, but as myself, believing that a long lasting ball is a good ball, i wouldnt throw a $200 ball for spares
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.

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