Simply the only ball I want and care for it more then ANY other ball made is my Gold Rhino Pro gouged up and down the other side still hooks with the best of them and has probably thousands of games by now bowled with since release every week for anywhere from 3 to 100 games in each week had many times where its been used 60 or so games of practice in a week but also my dad who used it till the last 3 years NEVER cleaned it or had it resurfaced or anything so I got the thumb plugged and redrilled and I say why fix what isnt broken it rolls with the best of them however carry is starting to become a problem with it which is why Id like to replace it if anybody has one for sale or knows of a ball with exactly the same reaction PLEASE let me know. Until then my vibe, awesome hook, intense inferno and xxxl(best ball second to rhino).