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Tripcee

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Viper Pattern
« on: May 06, 2012, 12:55:50 AM »
Just out of curiosity, what has shown you the most positive action on the Viper Pattern?

Weak solid, Strong solid, Weak pearl, or Strong pearl?

I'm just curious, as in a little less than two weeks I'm doing a regional, and just want an idea of what to expect, kind of.

Speed ranges between 16-18, normally cruising around 17 unless I need to drop or go. Revs around 400 after some training in the past couple weeks.

All I bowl on are various house shots, so I'm used to watching the ball run from the 5 board to the pocket after standing about 30. Is the Viper kind of similar after the breakdown, or will it be more down and in? Either way, I think I'll do alright, but knowledge is power!
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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 07:10:15 AM »
For me, I want to take a very even rolling ball (one that's clean through the fronts and not too strong off the dry), take my hand out of the ball and play the lanes close to how you attack Cheetah.  Go as straight through the front part of the lane as possible (and as close to the gutter as the lanes will allow) and control the break point.  You have more hand than me, so maybe hooking it is an option, but I get a ton of over/under when hooking it on Viper.

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 01:59:20 PM »
For me, I want to take a very even rolling ball (one that's clean through the fronts and not too strong off the dry), take my hand out of the ball and play the lanes close to how you attack Cheetah.  Go as straight through the front part of the lane as possible (and as close to the gutter as the lanes will allow) and control the break point.  You have more hand than me, so maybe hooking it is an option, but I get a ton of over/under when hooking it on Viper.

+1 to everything here. i've always had to play viper straight up as long as possible then eventually make a big move in when it's carried down enough.

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 02:20:13 PM »
I will be bowling on Viper for the first time this coming Wednesday. Would you recommend balls with surface to start and then less surface as the lanes break down, or just surface/less surface all the way through?

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 03:30:25 PM »
Strider is dead on here.  I've always seen it play pretty direct in the beginning with light surface symmetricals and then move in after some time.  The key is to limit your side roll until you need to start giving away the head pin.  If you try to go around them in the beginning it is super tough because you have absolutely no miss left.

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Tripcee

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 12:43:30 AM »
Thanks for the information, everyone. It looks like I'm going to end up getting my Taboo Spare drilled up for this one. Was going to save it as kind of a collector's deal for myself, but eh. think the Midnight Vibe's gonna be my go-to with the way everyone's talking, considering it's the weakest I honestly have that I won't have to change thumb inserts out of to make it PBA legal.
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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 07:55:42 AM »
I shot 690 and 660 on Viper in PBAX the last time I saw them (2 years ago) and it is my best match up of all the patterns.  Not sure how they'll tweak the pattern for this upcoming season.

Keep in mind the pattern is 37 feet so there is a ton of dry lane on the backend to work with.  I was throwing a New Breed Pearl playing 10 at the arrows to about 5-6, and I actually had some good room there.  When it starts to go away though be ready to make larger than normal moves left and go when it is time to.
 
So I, PERSONALLY, would start with a mild pearl (maybe not quite as extreme right as cheetah) and see what kind of look that gives you and adjust accordingly.  If you want to begin hooking it then you MAY face over / under hell (and i'm not kidding) but if you can stay right and control the pattern and make solid foot adjustments at the right time, you can hit this pattern.

Oh, and BTW, it's still a PBA pattern though it yeilds good scores, so make good shots or pay the price.  ;D
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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 07:04:03 PM »
I hate this pattern. I was averaging in the 180's on the pbax league until this pattern. The only decent thing I could find is using a bunch of speed and starting from 20 down 10 to 10 and go from there. Outside of that and standing right seemed impossible and moving looks good but was very difficult and uncontrollable. Can't wait to try it again this summer in the pbax league.

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 11:26:30 PM »
My question is, now, would you suggest polishing up anything from my current in-bag for use? Or leave everything as is? I can only actually use the Vibe, Robo Rule, and my recently acquired Rule GP2 and Mutant Cell Pearl.

I don't have the money to go back and switch out the thumb grips on the rest of my arsenal as of yet. The rest have the first switch-grip made, which isn't Vise or Turbo, so they're not PBA approved.
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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 12:07:36 AM »
No polish, all the pba patterns play best with some surface. If you insist on polish, you better be a shot maker or what till the pattern really develops definite swing & hold. Personally, I prefer weak pins with surface.
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Tripcee

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 12:09:43 AM »
Alrighty, then, no work needed! I don't mess with the surface of my equipment, honestly. I didn't know if it would be necessary for the tournament or not, but now I think I'll be okay on the surface area.

Just have to wait till next week, bowl, and I will definitely post an outcome/review.
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Walking E

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Re: Viper Pattern
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 01:57:45 AM »
Well, I didn't exactly light them up on the Viper tonight. I attribute a lot of that to my poor bowling. I felt like I had a look early and then just threw some really bad shots (and whiffed some spares).
I started with a 503C drilled weak and finished at 2000. My 503C plays very straight for me, so it seemed like a good control ball to start with. I played straight up about 6 board and had a good look, but - of course - had to make good shots. Unfortunately, I made three bad shots on a row on the left lane and opened each time, so that sunk my chances of throwing a decent game. After Game one, I switched to a Nomad Solid at 3000 that is drilled stronger. I only had a good look with it when I lofted over the heads. I moved in about a board with my feet and targeted 7-8 board still playing pretty straight up. There was a decent shot there if I allowed the ball to read the back of the pattern, but I make more bad tug shots and missed a few more spares.
Moved one pair to the right and this pair was hooking a bit more, so I made about a 3/2 adjustment and tried to give the ball a little belly. The look wasn't bad, but I made a few bad shots at the finish to only shoot 183. Also, my Teflon tape came off of my Dexter #1 heel, so I lost my slide for about 5-6 frames until I could get another piece from the pro shop. This caused me to force the ball more than I wanted to, so I wasn't getting the read like I would have liked.
I tried playing the same line the last game but the ball started getting jumpy, so I made a huge leap left (12 left with my feet, 10 left with my eyes) and pulled out my Hyroad drilled fairly weak. I played about 10 board at the break point and found a pretty nice shot there and finished with XX 9/ 9/ XXX7. I only shot 201 because of my struggles early in the game.
Overall, only 702 for the night for four games. Since this was my first time on Sport/PBA pattern, I'm not going to beat myself up about it. I knew that I would need time to get comfortable with the shot and learn to find what works best for me. This whole summer league will be training for me. My spare-shooting has always been streaky and I am currently on a bad streak, so the missed spares didn't really surprise me.
Anyway, it was fun. Next week is Tokyo pattern for me.
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