Author Topic: Brunswick part 2-Brunswick $147, Lane 1 $159, Storm $135 (Read 606 times)

Nicanor · « **on:** March 13, 2009, 08:22:07 AM »

So Brunswick moves to Mexico to stay in business? Those are the price of the companies newest ball on an internet sale.

I realize that brunswick is a corporation, but we the people of the United States should see what happening here other then Brunswick making a huge profit.

Labor is way lower but that just a start. There probably isn't any unemployment tax, taxes in general are probably considerable lower, propert , building and upkeep are proabably extremely lower.

Sure maybe they moved down there to stay in business, but to keep competitive prices with companies still here in the US who are also empying US citizens and all that goes with that, just just seem fair to the United States consumer.

Just my opinion.

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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:29:03 PM »

I went there with my rant when the move happened and was slammed by the brunswick crowd, you are right with your points.

Only freight would be increased overall by a big margin, everything else would be less expensive. I heard from a person working for a distributor that the plant is alot more hands on then they will admit too for production.

Why never any plant photos or video like Ebonite with The how is made segment, legends photos show there little plant and it is hands on.

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« **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:02:10 PM »

I guess it depends which website you look at.

The home page of this site lists prices to bowling.com where the Brunswick ball is the least expensive of those shown. So what's your point?

EDIT: I'm not here to argue with anyone. Everyone wishes Brunswick didn't have to move manufacturing to Mexico, including Brunswick. They laid people off, etc., to make an attempt to stay in the bowling ball business.

No one is forcing anyone to pay ANY price for ANY bowling ball. If you don't like a ball's price (as if that were the most important factor in your decision) then you can buy a different ball or wait until it's discontinued, or whatever.

Do you go to Walmart and haggle about their prices? How about McDonald's? A company can price it's product however they feel to maximize return on their investment.

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Brunswick Pro Shop Staff

www.brunswickbowling.com

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

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n00dlejester · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:38:37 PM »

I heard the Brunswick gear coming from Mexico is labeled wrong. Pins, CGs and MBs are all labeled wrong. My local pro-shop put a Twisted Fury on this spinner thing to determine the MB, and it was off by about 2 inches. I threw my Gravity Shift on it, and the MB was perfectly marked.

I'll stick to good ol' USA

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Buddy Christ · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:42:07 PM »

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I guess it depends which website you look at.

The home page of this site lists prices to bowling.com where the Brunswick ball is the least expensive of those shown. So what's your point?

EDIT: I'm not here to argue with anyone. Everyone wishes Brunswick didn't have to move manufacturing to Mexico, including Brunswick. They laid people off, etc., to make an attempt to stay in the bowling ball business.

No one is forcing anyone to pay ANY price for ANY bowling ball. If you don't like a ball's price (as if that were the most important factor in your decision) then you can buy a different ball or wait until it's discontinued, or whatever.

Do you go to Walmart and haggle about their prices? How about McDonald's? A company can price it's product however they feel to maximize return on their investment.

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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff

www.brunswickbowling.com

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

Edited on 3/13/2009 5:10 PM

But the thing is, everything (mostly) in Wal-Mart isn't made in the USA, thusly, it's cheaper. Why have the same price for bowling balls if they're made somewhere else? I have nothing against Brunswick, as I've only tried the Original Inferno (which I loved), but if you're going to make a lesser quality product, the prices should reflect the same. Which is what I think the OP is trying to get at. Correct me if wrong.

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Nicanor · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:47:47 PM »

You're right, I don't have to buy thier product, and I won't. Not them or MoRich. Bowling.com doesn't handle a lot of high end bowling balls. I think they buy in bulk, but more the most cases, Brunswick is right up there with all the bowling ball companies that have bowling balls made here in the US.

The company made the move to help make the company more/better solvent. But some of the savings should be passed down to the consumer. Like someone made the statemen about Wallmart and other companies that sell foreign items at a reduced rate.

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« **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:30:01 PM »

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The company made the move to help make the company more/better solvent. But some of the savings should be passed down to the consumer.
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Nicanor,

Actually they HAVE. The Wild Ride has the same core (and technology) as the other balls in the Twisted Fury line, yet it's priced about $20-$25 less depending on where you buy it. $20 at our shops.

Another example is the Rattler. Same coverstock as the original Inferno yet priced $50 less (based on our shop price).

Another two examples would be the Smash Zone and Maxxx Zone. These both have Inferno cores yet are priced $20-$30 less than what we sold the Inferno line.

These are some specific examples of how Brunswick is providing excellent VALUE to the consumer during difficult economic times.

All companies are tightening their belts right now. Not long ago Ebonite laid off about 20% of their workforce. I have friends on staff with other companies who had their contracts reduced dramatically this year.

If things don't improve with the world's economy the whole industry will need to make changes in order to remain viable and profitable. Brunswick may not be the last company to move manufacturing across our borders. If other companies follow suit to survive what will you do then?

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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff

www.brunswickbowling.com

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

Nicanor · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:57:05 PM »

I posted it befoer and I'll post it again:

1969 Corvette, wife's 2003 corvette, family car 2006 Cadilac SRX and three Harley Davidson motorcycles.

So Brunswick is using old style cores and coverstocks and the balls are cheaper?

Also, not everyone sells Brunswick cheaper. I can look at severl websites and thier new balls on the market are right up there with the home grown bowling balls.

No, they should have moved to someplace here in the US that the cost of living in much less and could have offered transfers first to help with costs and jobs. They went to Mexico purely for financial gain with no payback to the US consumer.

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Nicanor · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:42:23 PM »

I don't disagree, though I didn't buy the vehicles (except the Harleys) because they ar American made. I have been to Detroit several times and I know so much of the cars or car parts are made in Canada. If Ford or any other manufactuer closed shop and moved everything to Mexico (or another country) just to get cheap labor, realestate and no worries about the ecology and costing the US lots of jobs and not returning the savings to the consumer, I would look for another car manufactuer.

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