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scotts33

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Bentonite-Oil Removal
« on: March 12, 2011, 12:45:47 AM »
I started this thread in response to the kitty litter and Hook Again threads.
 
I spoke to my driller  last year about this topic.  Back when more wood lanes were in existence and  it's still done on wood today.  When the lanes are resurfaced the resurfacer in one of the operations removes the finish/sands the lane.  Then, for a number of days before more sanding and finish application is done.  Bentonite is applied to the heads to remove the oil that has soaked into the heads over time since the last resurfacing.  Most bowlers will note that oil soaked heads are very dark and after a bentonite application where the oil is removed the heads become very bright appearing.  The bentonite will be left on the heads for a number of days and shifted around the heads by sweeping the bentonite around t remove more oil.
 
 
Soooo, maybe one of the best mediums to use rather than kitty litter or a Hook Again system is to find bentonite in bags in your area?  Where to find I am not sure but I know a resurfacer could point you in the right direction.
 
I would also take any equipment that I was going to de-oil down to a 400 - 500 surface before using any medium like bentonite, etal.
 
I'd like to know if anyone has used bentonite and their results plus the way they did it.  I actually think it would work.  A bag of bentonite should be relatively cheap.


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 09:06:35 PM »

$1.37/lb...that's pretty cheap!

 


 

And of course, from your link to wiki:  "Bentonite can be used in cement, adhesives, ceramic bodies, and cat litter."
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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 06:37:36 AM »
Reading the Wikipedia entry, seems like sodium bentonite  is used for absorbing water, BUT calcium bentonite is better for absorbing oil. Seems like you need to be careful which salt of bentonite you order.
 
This has also been recommended: Abzorbit


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 07:32:22 AM »
I spent a few days shoveling this stuff out from under our fuel storage tanks last summer. DEC wrote the plant up for having improper containment under the tanks. The stuff didnt seem to soak #2 fuel or on-road diesel very well. It was ridiculously heavy as well, I would say water logged. Nasty grey clay/mud stuff, really sticky.

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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 07:47:44 AM »
What was the old Columbia 300 oil removal stuff called?  Wasn't it a whitish powder in a bag?  You enclosed the ball in the bag and I bet that stuff was some form of bentonite.
 
Since, kitty litter contains bentonite it seems there is a correlation.
 
In my youth, I worked in a Milwaukee County Park System pool as a lifeguard and remember seeing 50 lb. bags of sodium bentonite that were used in the pools filtration system.


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 08:44:15 AM »
 

That was CPR.  azguy used to use it and said it was pretty good.

 

Not available anymore, but this link at least has the marketing info:

 




scotts33 wrote on 3/13/2011 7:47 AM:
What was the old Columbia 300 oil removal stuff called?  Wasn't it a whitish powder in a bag?  You enclosed the ball in the bag and I bet that stuff was some form of bentonite.

 

Since, kitty litter contains bentonite it seems there is a correlation.

 

In my youth, I worked in a Milwaukee County Park System pool as a lifeguard and remember seeing 50 lb. bags of sodium bentonite that were used in the pools filtration system.


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 11:04:22 AM »
Anyone ever try Speedy Dry?


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »
I knew kitty litter was a type of clay. I didn't know it contained bentonite. I bet it the sodium type, which is a water absorber.
 
I also used the Columbia CPR. Still have some as well as a bag of Abzorbit (which I have not tried yet). The CPR does seem to work, but I suspect if it's not diatomaceous earth, it's a close relative. Being such, I really, really do not like to use it. If you happen to breathe it in, which is all too easy, you can be in a lot of trouble. 
 
There are some of these super-absorbent materials, like Opti-Sorb, which do contain diatomaceous earth. I will not buy them. DE was used extensively in the exotic fishing keeping and raising hobby. I learned in that it was potentially dangerous material for the inexperienced handlers.
 
scotts33 wrote on 3/13/2011 7:47 AM:
What was the old Columbia 300 oil removal stuff called?  Wasn't it a whitish powder in a bag?  You enclosed the ball in the bag and I bet that stuff was some form of bentonite.
 
Since, kitty litter contains bentonite it seems there is a correlation.
 
In my youth, I worked in a Milwaukee County Park System pool as a lifeguard and remember seeing 50 lb. bags of sodium bentonite that were used in the pools filtration system.


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 06:32:22 PM »
All I could add is  be careful......I found this online

 



Sodium Bentonite Dangers





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Krista Niece has been writing articles since 2002. As a biomaterials research professional, she has co-authored peer-reviewed publications in "Science," "Biomaterials" and other scientific journals. She has produced literature review summaries for "MRS Bulletin" and written grant proposals. Niece holds a Bachelor of Science from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a Doctor of Philosophy from Northwestern University, both in materials science and engineering.

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Sodium bentonite powder can be an inhalation hazard.

Used in cat litter and industrial sealants as well as feeds, foods and personal-care products, sodium bentonite has earned its long-standing title as the “clay of a thousand uses.” Sodium bentonite can absorb up to five times its weight in water and capture charged particles from solutions. Its safety has not been exhaustively studied, but its primary hazards appear to be as a lung and eye irritant and--depending on its history--a potential source of toxins. Knowing the properties of the bentonite used for a particular application is key to using it safely.



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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 06:42:04 PM »
I would not use any form of bentonite without a dust mask.  Jeff is correct it's calcium bentonite that you want to use not sodium.  I found a 50 lb. bag for $7.25.  I spoke to a lane resurfacer about it and he said it should work well.

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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 07:58:51 PM »
Just remember than not everything that comes out of a ball is oil!  Not so much with the Kitty Litter method etc but when heating, its not just oil coming out so dont over do it or you'll kill the ball completely!
 
 


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 08:06:32 PM »

 I am NOT using any heat and I know about plasticizer. 
RyanRPS wrote on 3/14/2011 7:58 PM:
Just remember than not everything that comes out of a ball is oil!  Not so much with the Kitty Litter method etc but when heating, its not just oil coming out so dont over do it or you'll kill the ball completely!
 
 


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Re: Bentonite-Oil Removal
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 08:31:43 AM »

 Is this why you stay under the 120 degree temp?

And, if you leave your bag in the trunk, is some of what appears to be oil, actually plasticizers?

Has anyone tried using rice hull ash as an oil absorbent?  It also can be used to polish chrome. lol.



scotts33 wrote on 3/14/2011 8:06 PM:

 I am NOT using any heat and I know about plasticizer. 



RyanRPS wrote on 3/14/2011 7:58 PM:
Just remember than not everything that comes out of a ball is oil!  Not so much with the Kitty Litter method etc but when heating, its not just oil coming out so dont over do it or you'll kill the ball completely!

 

 


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