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traderfjp

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Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« on: March 08, 2016, 07:09:45 AM »
Short of plastic and Urethane what is your best dry lane ball.  I have an old Desert Heat from Track and was looking for a ball that hooks even less. 

 

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2016, 09:31:38 AM »
ccrider: I got it on Ebay NIB for a very low price. It's a great ball.  Rolls very predictable.  I also bought a Slingshot which is on its way.  I think the slingshot might be a tad weaker.  I drilled my Heat for length and used a 4.5 pin to pap.  I figured the ball has such a low differential that drilling it on the stronger side would get whatever flare there is in the ball to show itself.  If the outside of the lane is toast it will go high but I can move a little left and I'm back in the driver's seat.  The first game in league I shot 288 with it. 

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2016, 09:36:54 AM »
Charlest:  I had a Super Natural which was part Urethane and it hooked way to much and was touchy on oil.  That was not a good ball for me.  Urethane seems to pick up too early.  I like reactive for the length and the low differential keeps the ball from jumping off the backend.  I may drill the Slingshot with a 2" pin to pap or just drill it like my heat.  I don't think it will make a huge difference.  75% of the ball's reaction is core and cover anyway.  I have balls with similar drillings and they react totally different.  Pin down, pin up, the ball is going to go long regardless and with the weak core it should roll into the pocket.  I hope.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2016, 09:39:47 AM »
How about the new Pearl Loco?

I haven't seen it thrown but I heard it was a good dry lane ball.  It is probably stronger than the Slingshot or Dry Heat.  It has a higher differential and 2-3" of flare.  A lot of junior bowlers are drilling these up. 

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2016, 10:02:34 AM »
Charlest:  I had a Super Natural which was part Urethane and it hooked way to much and was touchy on oil.  That was not a good ball for me.  Urethane seems to pick up too early.  I like reactive for the length and the low differential keeps the ball from jumping off the backend.  I may drill the Slingshot with a 2" pin to pap or just drill it like my heat.  I don't think it will make a huge difference.  75% of the ball's reaction is core and cover anyway.  I have balls with similar drillings and they react totally different.  Pin down, pin up, the ball is going to go long regardless and with the weak core it should roll into the pocket.  I hope.

I had a SuperNatural; it is not a true urethane, but a urethane/resin blend, and it had a medium strength core. That along with it's polish made it more of a mild resin, if anything. I had resins that handled dry and oil better and were more reliable. I sold mine.

A 2" pin on a Slingshot should make it even more controllable, but will probably force you to play an outside line. But all in all it shouldn't make a big difference. How well it works wll depend on how much dry there is, how much head oil and your release (rev dominant, speed dominant, or matched). If it hooks too much still, you'll need to buy a Blue Hammer and polish it. :)
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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2016, 10:04:40 AM »
Just a note:  The lefty two hander on tour that uses nothing but urethane; he has 9 different layouts on pitch black(s).  So there are different reactions available with that ball and I assume the new blue one will be similar.

This was said on one of the ESPN broadcasts that he made the show of.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2016, 10:16:32 AM »
TX:  I think he is so successful with Urethane because of his speed and rev rate.  For the average bowler urethane will probably read too soon and then die on the backend.  I haven't thrown one so I really am just guessing.  I tried my friend's original Blue Hammer and had an amazing reaction playing in the dirt but I only tossed it for one game.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2016, 12:19:27 PM »
Trader:  You may be correct.  Just wanted for everyone to realize that with these new urethane balls, they flare just like reactives, and different layouts may or may not help.  Don't just drill them like 80s urethane and then go, "nope" that didn't work; when a different layout could help.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2016, 03:08:29 PM »
I have been bringing out my old 300c pearl and throwing it. Gives me a controllable reaction and let's me stay a little further right, but sometimes it has been too early and strong. I have a pitch black that gives me a spotty reaction on these lanes because of inconsistent back ends. Desperate times call for desperate measures so I am giving turtle wax a try on my 300c since I don't have any polish with a slip agent. Royal shine just makes the ball fly on the back ends. Worse case scenario, I will sand the ball back down to get rid of the wax.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2016, 03:38:49 PM »
Urethane balls hook early and flatten out on the backend.  If you are bowling up first arrow then that is great.  If you are on a THS, then you better be damn accurate.
Pearl mid to lower end balls without super tall pins or lower xholes would be the way to go.
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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2016, 05:30:17 PM »
Urethane balls hook early and flatten out on the backend.  If you are bowling up first arrow then that is great.  If you are on a THS, then you better be damn accurate.
Pearl mid to lower end balls without super tall pins or lower xholes would be the way to go.

Agreed, based on recent experience. I have a pin down IQ pearl and a Black Hammer, drilled 4" from my PAP.

The Black Hammer flares for sure, but must have dry to consistently turn the corner. The reaction is early and smooth. I love it when the lanes are dry enough to use it. The reaction shape is nothing like any resin ball I have thrown.  If there is oil in the middle or the backends are inconsistent, and I miss in, the Hammer goes pretty straight.

The pin down IQ pearl is drilled 5 inches from my PAP.  I have it at 1000 with polish. It is early and smooth but tends to give me a little tug room if I miss in when there is still oil in the middle or inconsistent backends.  The pearl cover is stronger and it shows.

My four ball line up at this point is the Nirvana, Jackal Carnage, IQ Pearl, Black Hammer. I also use a plastic spare ball. The Black Hammer flares some, even if I break my wrist, and I have not had enough time to practice with it using it as a spare ball.

Some day, when I really learn how to bowl, I can see myself using only the urethane ball. You get what you throw with it when using it under less than ideal conditions.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2016, 11:11:17 AM »
I have a 16 lb Power Groove Dry/R, single drill, less than 20 games that I'll sell at a reasonable price.  If interested, send me a PM.  Shortly after I got it I also got a Dynothane Energy, which I've used ever since for dry lanes.  --  JohnP

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2016, 01:08:46 PM »
I would take it but it's too close to a Slingblade in reaction.

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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2016, 02:44:11 PM »
I would take it but it's too close to a Slingblade in reaction.

Do you mean the Brunswick Slingshot, which we've been talking about, or the Hammer Sling Blade (another great light oil ball from the past)?
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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2016, 03:22:12 PM »
I have a 16 lb Power Groove Dry/R, single drill, less than 20 games that I'll sell at a reasonable price.  If interested, send me a PM.  Shortly after I got it I also got a Dynothane Energy, which I've used ever since for dry lanes.  --  JohnP

There was a batch of the DT Energy that they forgot to add the resin to, resulting in a ball that was much weaker than intended.  Is yours one of those?
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Re: Best Ball for Burned Lanes
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2016, 05:39:43 PM »
I have no idea.  I bought it on close out from bowlingballs.com.  It does hook more than urethane, so I doubt it.  If you're interested I'll get the serial number and post it next week.  --  JohnP