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no1bucsfan

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my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« on: December 24, 2003, 06:23:49 PM »
With all these posts about bowling going downhill and no longer being taken seriously, I have decided to enlighten you on my opinion. You may not agree, but I'll just pretend you do anyway.

I feel one of the main reasons bowling is losing popularity is price. If someone wants to get started in a sport, any sport, and take it seriously, then you have to get the equipment for it.

Baseball: bat: 60 dollars. Glove: 30 dollars. ball: supplied Uniform: usually supplied, or available on payment plan.

Football: ball: supplied Uniform: payment plan Pads: 100 dollars.

Bowling: price per game varies between 1.60, to 2.50, depending on location. Ball: 65.00 for a cheapie to 250.oo for a good one. Plus you have to buy new ones as your game improves to stay competitive.  Shoes: 40.00 to 180.00 league prices: 10.00 to 15.00 a week. Per league. Then you add in the headaches of constantly changing lane conditions, broken lanes, stupid mechanics, so on and so forth.

Then you have what happens in my local house. It is almost to bowl more than two games before you have some wanna be pro- no it all, trying to tell you how to improve your game, which is fine, I can use all the advice I can get, but as soon as they leave here comes another one telling you the exact opposite of what the first one told you. Meanwhile if you try to offer any advice to them, like you see them dropping their shoulder, or turning on the release, they want to throw a fit and complain about you bothering them.

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Edited on 12/25/2003 10:22 AM

 

seadrive

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2003, 09:56:20 AM »
Peri, you're from Long Island, right?

I don't understand why centers charge the same amount per game, regardless of how many games you bowl.  At $4.00 per game, most families of four cannot afford to bowl more than 2 games, which takes all of about an hour.  $32 (not including rental shoes and refreshments) for one hour of entertainment, that's pretty steep.

Why don't they charge on a sliding scale, so much for the first game, 25% less for the second game, and 50% less for each game over 2.  People would bowl more games, and spend more time in the center.  They'd probably spend the same amount, but they'd feel better about it.  Unless the center has more business than it can handle, I don't see why this would hurt them.

As a two-league regular, I get to practice for a buck a game, so I personally have no complaint with my local center's prices.  But it reflects the old "take it or leave it" attitude that seems all too prevalent in the bowling industry, as if customers were still knocking down their doors to get in.
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allengrace62

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2003, 09:59:57 AM »
I don't think price has much to do with it. I think
the major problem is the concept that this is a sport
participated in by beer drinking, low lifes. It just
isn't prestigious like golf or tennis.

no1bucsfan

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2003, 11:13:24 AM »
Golf also takes much less physical effort to play than most sports. If you include the cart, that is. Golf also offers the ability to play in the beautiful outdoors, not in a building. Golf can easily be considered a leisurely activity, where you can take your time, enjoy the fresh air, hang out with friends, and there is always the clubhouse, restaurant, another hang out spot usually on the ninth hole. Poeple are more willing to pay more for something that can offer the extras that golf does.

Yes, the price of clubs are more expensive, but once you get a good set, they can last you for years. But in bowling, to stay on top of your game, it seems you are supposed to buy a new ball every month or so.

Besides, I saw tin cup, I know if Kevin Costner can shoot a seventy in 18 holes, with nothing but a 7 iron, anybody can do it.
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no1bucsfan

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2003, 11:30:00 AM »
very true sawbones. I guess golfers are like everyone else, if it's new it must be better. But I am almost sure that there are less new "good" clubs that come out per year, than bowling balls.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2003, 12:26:13 PM »
No1BucFan .. Everyone is entitled to their opinion ..NONE of us know the REAL ANSWER . although we sometimes come off as we do .. I agree with YOU 100%.Let your neighborhood center advertise in local papers that there are SALE PRICE days (when kids are off from school)and watch the center fill up. There are CANDIDATES out there but kids (parents) can't afford the game!
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CountryClubBowler

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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2003, 12:48:35 PM »
Bowling near me during primetime, non-league rates range anywhere from 3.75-5.75 per game ! (5.75 is classic bowl in Daly City on Friday from 5PM on.)  I took a long break from bowling and prices went up by an average of 1.25 per game just in that short time.  It's an expensive sport.  I think that the gouging hits people even more if they are from the SF Bay Area.  It seems prices are through the roof these days.  

Now it seems that most places just do it by the hour, which is also pretty pricey and demands less enjoyment.  If I am paying 20-25 an hour for the lane, I don't want to sit back and chat between frames.  I want to get up there and bowl.  

All of these things are tangentially related in that they are negative parts of the game that lead to a decline.  I don't think anyone is doing anything malicious in raising prices at all however.  I think the guys who run the houses are doing what they need to do to survive.  In a sport where things are going downhill, owners will inevitably do things that lead to more decline.  It's like struggling in quick sand.
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Re: my feelings on why bowling is on the decline
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2003, 12:48:36 PM »
Bowling near me during primetime, non-league rates range anywhere from 3.75-5.75 per game ! (5.75 is classic bowl in Daly City on Friday from 5PM on.)  I took a long break from bowling and prices went up by an average of 1.25 per game just in that short time.  It's an expensive sport.  I think that the gouging hits people even more if they are from the SF Bay Area.  It seems prices are through the roof these days.  

Now it seems that most places just do it by the hour, which is also pretty pricey and demands less enjoyment.  If I am paying 20-25 an hour for the lane, I don't want to sit back and chat between frames.  I want to get up there and bowl.  

All of these things are tangentially related in that they are negative parts of the game that lead to a decline.  I don't think anyone is doing anything malicious in raising prices at all however.  I think the guys who run the houses are doing what they need to do to survive.  In a sport where things are going downhill, owners will inevitably do things that lead to more decline.  It's like struggling in quick sand.
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