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revTrex

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Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« on: May 08, 2008, 02:37:43 AM »
Alright, guys, here goes:

As I work for BJI, I'm trying to put together a list of the 50 greatest bowlers to NEVER BOWL OR WIN in the PBA. This in response to the PBA putting together a list of the 50 greatest PBA players...

So...what I guess I'm asking you guys to do is just start naming some guys. I've got the obvious ones -- Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Blouin, John "Count" Gengler, Hank Marino, Ned Day -- but I want to hear what you guys think. I know a ton about the pre-PBA years...but not so much about those bowlers who rolled outside the PBA while the PBA was in existence. That means a lot of folks -- the action bowlers, the amateurs, etc. -- might go unnoticed, and I don't want that to happen. I want this list to be as complete as possible, so the more you got, the better it'll be. ON SECOND EDIT: Also note that you can now suggest people who never won a title...

After I compile all the names (from here, from my own research, from talking to other experts, etc.), BJI is going to rank these, just like the PBA is doing. Haven't exactly established how this will happen, but it'll most likely be a panel of experts.

Sound good? Start naming! ON EDIT: If you want, when you post a name, add a little info about that person. It takes a lot of time to research names, so if you've got info (where they're from, why they should be on the list), add that if possible!

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2008, 12:25:37 AM »
Don't forget, Bill Orlikowski and Don Moser both former PBA players.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2008, 09:12:54 AM »
What about Mr Prebowl?  He has multiple 900's.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2008, 09:31:09 AM »
Totally not to hijackthis thread, but a 5 minutes 5 seconds into this video, thee is a young boy sitting in the crowd next to a lady in a black and white polka dot dress and I would put money on it that it's Robert Smith (if he lived in that area as a child).

Once again, sorry to hijack post, just noticed as I was watchig the video.

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PS...I totally second the nominations for Belmonte and Palermaa...they're changing the face of bowling single-handedly...with both hands (what an unintended pun that was....LOL)


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Number one should be my friend and ex team mate 2 time High Roller champion Paul Renteria he won 400k alone in those wins.


His mom tracks his lifetime winnings which is right at 1.5 million dollars, very underrated player could not win on the national tour but did make a few shows in 1980's.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b-lSGT-vFDc

added so you guys can see this guy bowl he made a brutal shot look easy, Mo Pinel personally drilled the balls used.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2008, 10:31:14 AM »
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What about Mr Prebowl?  He has multiple 900's.
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YEAH!  I mean, something like a hundred 900's bowled in the span of 3 months?  The guy is a freakin' MACHINE!  He's the best ever!  How can he NOT be on this list?  USBC agrees that he did it, so it must surely prove to all that he is legit!  How many Pro's have multiple 900 rings?  Yep, thought so.  Case closed.

Here's a napkin you can use to wipe up my dripping sarcasm from the post above.

I'm sure the person I quoted was not serious either.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2008, 11:12:55 AM »
You are correct, I was joking as well.  I couldn't find the sarcasm button on my computer.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2008, 11:15:50 AM »
Look at me, I'm #25 on that list!!
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2008, 11:20:33 AM »
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You are correct, I was joking as well.  I couldn't find the sarcasm button on my computer.
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You don't see it? It's right beside all the witnesses to those multiple 900's!

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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2008, 11:21:42 AM »
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Look at me, I'm #25 on that list!!
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If that's the case, then I nominate THE HOSE!

Does that get me a "10" rating for today?

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Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep...

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2008, 11:43:04 AM »
http://bowlneba.com/allStats.cfm?StatsYear=2008&Sort=Average&Dir=DESC

Any one of these guys could go on pba imo---Neba bowling in New England is a sight to behold
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2008, 01:32:55 PM »
One has to mention Joe Firpo.  That guy was raw talent who never got a break.  He did win a doubles tournament with Del Warren, but never hit a singles title victory.

From here in NC, Butch Zdelar set state records and was an incredible sight on the lanes.  10 years ago he could hook a Columbia blue dot like a modern reactive.  He had to leave the game due to an injury to his bowling hand.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2008, 02:41:26 PM »
When he toured in the 80's paul was strapping 600 plus rev's with plastic and urethane, Robert Smith looked up to Paul when he young as a mentor. They are still good friends and many people helped Robert Smith get were he is today.

One of his junior coaches is also a friend of mine, he drove Robert to tournaments all over Cali and Arizona when the family could not get him there. Robert is one of coolest down to earth PBA guys there is period.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2008, 11:50:48 PM »
Robert Mushtare is bowling PBA regionals.  He cashed in one out east recently so he can NOT be on the list.

The list must have Gordy Baer from Chicago/Northwest Indiana.  The man was always way up in the lifetime average of the ABC Tournament, I don't know if he was ever first, but I know he was at least second in his prime.  You won't find his name now as he did it back when a 200 average meant you were GREAT.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2008, 03:08:38 AM »
Another guy from Gordys era belongs then, Eddie Marzka.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2008, 07:12:17 PM »
I'm a New England boy, so I'll throw out another tip of the cap to many of the top NEBA players.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2008, 08:35:05 PM »
Ok where is Nick Vogelsang, Ken Abner, Jeff Fehr, Chris lochetter.
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