What cleaners are y’all using? I’ve been using the motiv gel stuff for about the last year, and and thoroughly unimpressed. It seems to want to get a ball clean for the most part, and I clean after almost every time I throw the ball, plus use a leather shammy before each shot, but I set my stuff out in the sun last night and oil just poured out or even my low game equipment. Even my blue vibe, which had maybe 20-30 games on it. I don’t feel like it pulls oil out of the cover stock the way it should, but just takes grime off the surface. Plus it leaves the ball feeling slimy.