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lilpossum1

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Best cleaners
« on: May 24, 2019, 02:05:37 PM »
What cleaners are y’all using? I’ve been using the motiv gel stuff for about the last year, and and thoroughly unimpressed. It seems to want to get a ball clean for the most part, and I clean after almost every time I throw the ball, plus use a leather shammy before each shot, but I set my stuff out in the sun last night and oil just poured out or even my low game equipment. Even my blue vibe, which had maybe 20-30 games on it. I don’t feel like it pulls oil out of the cover stock the way it should, but just takes grime off the surface. Plus it leaves the ball feeling slimy.
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2019, 01:42:24 PM »
Purple stuff is basically the same as Fabuloso.
IMO, why pay for expensive cleaner when many of the above household products works just as well for alot less $$.
bust just MY opinion.....
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2019, 06:00:13 PM »
Quote from: jkirkerx on May 27, 2019, 05:06:34 PM
Genesis Evo Max Orange; they changed a chemical and reduced the bad smell recently.
Spray it on from about 12" away and just mist the ball, then let it evaporate a bit to lift the oil and wipe for a deep clean.

Yes to the Genesis Orange. It's one of the few industrial strength cleaners that are a step up from the rest. It's superior to the run of the mill bowling specific cleaners. It's superior to the household cleaners mentioned throughout the thread. For some it's worth it. For others, cheap and adequate are enough.
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2019, 10:36:46 PM »
How does the Genesis compare to Hook-it and CnD?
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2019, 10:06:33 AM »
Quote from: lefty50 on May 27, 2019, 10:36:46 PM
How does the Genesis compare to Hook-it and CnD?

 
All three are strong cleaners. I've found Genesis Orange and Hook-It to be very comparable. They both seem to be good at lifting up lane shine left by most other bowling specific cleaners. CnD has always had a strong following and it does clean well, but I don't put in the same category as the other two. 


Everybody has their own method for determining if a cleaner is "good" or not. For me, it's how well a cleaner works on a fresh dull cover after bowling several games on a fresh heavier volume sport shot. My experience is that Genesis Orange removes much of the visible shine/accumulation. Certainly more than most of the other products I've used.
 
But the chemical formation is nasty and I use it only on my equipment with surface. I think it's overkill for my pearl/polished balls, so I use either Vise or Valentino for those.
 
No cleaner is going to eliminate the need to refresh covers periodically. The best cleaners will reduce the frequency, but they aren't magic.
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2019, 12:25:24 PM »
I've been using the Hammer Tough Scrub gel on all my dull balls this year and it does a great job as well
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2019, 10:23:54 PM »
Using white scotch brites on a spinner allows pretty much any decent cleaner to get the job done.
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2019, 05:31:35 AM »
Quote from: jkirkerx on May 28, 2019, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: Steven on May 27, 2019, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: jkirkerx on May 27, 2019, 05:06:34 PM
Genesis Evo Max Orange; they changed a chemical and reduced the bad smell recently.
Spray it on from about 12" away and just mist the ball, then let it evaporate a bit to lift the oil and wipe for a deep clean.

Yes to the Genesis Orange. It's one of the few industrial strength cleaners that are a step up from the rest. It's superior to the run of the mill bowling specific cleaners. It's superior to the household cleaners mentioned throughout the thread. For some it's worth it. For others, cheap and adequate are enough.

My Hot Cell still looks brand new after 75 games, and I have never resurfaced it.
Yes great for solids and hybrids, I use it lightly on polished balls.
Purple Idols get all that black stuff, it comes right off. I can clean a Brunswick Bias and make it white again with greater effort. I liked it so much, I sell it now.

The Hot Cell is URETHANE. It is treated very differently from reactive resin, in both oil handling, type of hook, oil absorption and surface changes (both refreshing and resurfacing)!!!
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 12:35:00 PM »
Has anyone seen that any of these cleaners harm the ball?  I know USBC is supposed to be making sure they are safe, but I still wonder.  I've had my clean n dull melt the plastic bottle it was in, just wondering what it does to the make up of the coverstock over time?

I've used Motiv gel scuff on my dull equipment.  I'm not sure how well it cleans, but I mainly use it so that I have the same surface on my ball each time I bowl.  I'm using the Vise Ball Cleaner on my polished stuff and it seems to work pretty good.  After reading this thread I want to try the  Storm Scuff and the Genesis Evo Max Orange.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2019, 01:40:14 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think the focus of USBC has been looking for:

1- Cleaners with abrasives (if so, then use them before or after play),

2- Cleaners that are harsh enough that they may soften the cover of the ball, and these are probably in the "not approved anytime" category.

My opinion is that anything in the #2 category should be avoided for routine cleaning.  We all know that acetone is great for cleaning the super glue that occasionally gets on the ball, but that's small areas and not done as "cleaning".

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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2019, 10:36:03 AM »
Quote from: notclay on May 31, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
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I think the focus of USBC has been looking for:

1- Cleaners with abrasives (if so, then use them before or after play),


And yet Bean's Secret Sauce is still approved for anytime use (until new rule changes coming banning all).  Abrasives were fine as long as you greased the right palms at USBC.
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J_w73

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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2019, 01:14:52 PM »
Quote from: BowlingForDonuts on June 01, 2019, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: notclay on May 31, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think the focus of USBC has been looking for:

1- Cleaners with abrasives (if so, then use them before or after play),


And yet Bean's Secret Sauce is still approved for anytime use (until rule changes coming).  Abrasives where fine as long as you greased the right palms at USBC.


Yep.. Didn't make any sense to me either but I took advantage of it..
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2019, 12:09:17 AM »
Quote from: J_w73 on May 31, 2019, 12:35:00 PM
Has anyone seen that any of these cleaners harm the ball?  I know USBC is supposed to be making sure they are safe, but I still wonder.  I've had my clean n dull melt the plastic bottle it was in, just wondering what it does to the make up of the coverstock over time?

several years ago i used clean-n-dull on a ball with the spinner.  it caused significant discoloration in the area where pressure was applied; and I recall that it wasnt much pressure, just enough to keep the towel on the ball.

I have had no problems with hand applications and that is all I do now when using the clean-n-dull



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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2019, 12:57:34 PM »
Quote from: Steven on May 28, 2019, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: lefty50 on May 27, 2019, 10:36:46 PM
How does the Genesis compare to Hook-it and CnD?

 
All three are strong cleaners. I've found Genesis Orange and Hook-It to be very comparable. They both seem to be good at lifting up lane shine left by most other bowling specific cleaners. CnD has always had a strong following and it does clean well, but I don't put in the same category as the other two. 


Everybody has their own method for determining if a cleaner is "good" or not. For me, it's how well a cleaner works on a fresh dull cover after bowling several games on a fresh heavier volume sport shot. My experience is that Genesis Orange removes much of the visible shine/accumulation. Certainly more than most of the other products I've used.
 
But the chemical formation is nasty and I use it only on my equipment with surface. I think it's overkill for my pearl/polished balls, so I use either Vise or Valentino for those.
 
No cleaner is going to eliminate the need to refresh covers periodically. The best cleaners will reduce the frequency, but they aren't magic.
Just bought a Hammer Rip'd Pearl. One of the few pearls without polish out of box. Only 1 set on it. Absolutely love the down lane reaction and want to keep it. In your opinion can a really strong cleaner like Genesis Evo Max Orange do the ball harm?

Great thread for us casual bowlers. Thanks for all the great advise.
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Steven

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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2019, 04:23:02 PM »
Quote from: CubsFan on September 15, 2019, 12:57:34 PM

Just bought a Hammer Rip'd Pearl. One of the few pearls without polish out of box. Only 1 set on it. Absolutely love the down lane reaction and want to keep it. In your opinion can a really strong cleaner like Genesis Evo Max Orange do the ball harm?

Great thread for us casual bowlers. Thanks for all the great advise.

 
I too have a Hammer Rip'd Pearl. Good ball which I've cleaned several times with Orange.

I can't tell you with any kind of guarantee that Evo Max Orange won't harm a ball. However, Genesis is a quality bowling company and I'd like to believe they've thought the chemical composition through. I've used about a half gallon for the ongoing cleaning of several balls and so far haven't found any negative effects. It's not something I'm worried about. 
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Re: Best cleaners
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2019, 02:18:32 PM »
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