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Title: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on June 10, 2003, 10:42:32 PM

What ball currently on the market has the biggest backend (most forgiving) reaction? I need a super skid/flipping ball since I already have a ton of stuff that gets into an early roll. Don't like particle covers...seem to be too over/under for me. I need something for medium oil (40-43ft) with stripped backends...

I bought a Cherry Bomb, but was very disappointed because I could not get it to turn the corner. Washed-out a ton with it...if I had more hand then I probably could have gotten more out of it, but I don't.  I had it drilled label leverage with pretty good specs.

Thanks
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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Jeffrevs on June 11, 2003, 01:53:55 PM

FZ,
I've thrown both of these.....Silver Streak, solid and pearl!! Both have monstrous backends..I would call them HARD, HARD arcs!  My buddy has a pearl that I've thrown and it makes me look like I have hand.....I have a solid drilled 4 label, ....it's just a sick ball...dry board seeking missile !
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JEFF

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: RSalas on June 11, 2003, 02:14:49 PM

The Fuze Igniter would be worthy of consideration as well.

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on June 11, 2003, 02:19:24 PM

Jeff & Rag:  How would the Retro Roto Blue Pearl compare to the Silver Streak Pearl?
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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: tomtom123 on June 11, 2003, 02:22:13 PM

the blue gryphon from visionary

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: HamPster on June 11, 2003, 02:35:08 PM

Another vote for the Silver Streaks, although the Raging Red Fuze is REALLY impressive, and you can get one on ebay shipped to you for under 100 bucks.
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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Mustang Guy on June 11, 2003, 02:44:25 PM

Blue Retro was a huge skid flip ball, very similar to a Thunder Road Pearl.  As far as a the pattern you are talking about I myself would consider that a long pattern at (40-43 Feet) but you say medium oil.  So you mean the volume isn't quite heavy.  So you couldn't get a pearl reactive to turn the corner I would suggest a pearl particle then.  Perhaps the new Pure Fuel coming out July 15th would be a good choice for you.  I think the Silver Streak Pearl would be a good ball because it is harder on the backend then your CB, but not by that many boards.  So I would suggest the new Pure Fuel as the core and cover should match up great for you.

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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Aristotle on June 11, 2003, 03:01:56 PM

If you're looking at pearlized particle, there's always the Threat which has a monster backend for me.

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Jeffrevs on June 11, 2003, 03:03:20 PM

Particle Pearl.......skid/flip?? Depends on how it's drilled then, yes ?
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JEFF

Edited on 6/11/2003 3:07 PM

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: komike on June 11, 2003, 04:08:16 PM

Blue Retro has the biggest backend ive seen...next would be the Silver Streak Pearl...the SSP is probably the best way to go for the conditions you are bowling on. If you are looking for a ball the goes long and will snap back and is consitant...look for an Assault Pearl...you will not be dissapointed..all 3 Roto's are excellent balls...

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: HamPster on June 11, 2003, 10:46:39 PM

And if we're talking about sports players in general, Serena Willams has a backend that puts any ball on any condition to shame.
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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Chrispy on June 11, 2003, 11:21:27 PM

I bought an Eraser Blaze. I put the pin under my middle finger and kicked the c.g. 30 degrees out towards my pap. The best ball i have had for medium wet/dry
Goes nice and long then turns like someone kicked it towards the pocket.

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Bjaardker on June 12, 2003, 10:56:54 AM

I can't believe the number of people here who've posted balls that may have booming backs on what they bowl on without giving consideration to what the original poster said.

Folks, he said that the Cherry Bomb was having trouble turning the corner for him. The CB is one of the most aggressive reactives on the market right now. If he's washing out with that, how can you possibly be reccommending WEAKER balls? It didn't sound like rollout was his problem, If anything carrydown might have been an issue.

Bottom line, I just dont see how you could reccommend anything less than a SUPER aggressive reactive, or a particle pearl.

My personal suggestion to you Freakzilla, instead of giving up on the CB right now, try hitting it with just a bit of surface, Maybe bring it down to a matte 1200 or a slightly polished 1000. It should turn the corner a bit better for you.

If that's still not working, I would reccomend you look at almost any of the particle pearls with dynamic cores. The Freak Out, Eraser PP, & Pure Fuel (yet to be released) are just a couple of options. The particle should help with the break, but the pearl tends to send them quite long (depending on the drilling of course).

Good luck!

Edited on 6/12/2003 11:01 AM

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: T-GOD on June 12, 2003, 11:09:09 AM

To add on to Bjaackers point, a label leverage drilling that Freak has on his Cherry Bomb, usually will give you more over/under, as compared to a CG out drillling. A different drilling and/or slightly changing the surface is all that he probably needs. =:^D

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Jeffrevs on June 12, 2003, 11:16:14 AM

quote:

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I just dont see how you could reccommend anything less than a SUPER aggressive reactive, or a particle pearl.

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Agreed,......super strong reactive,....Silver Streak solid!

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JEFF

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on June 13, 2003, 08:10:07 AM

Many thanks to Bjaardker, T-GOD, and everyone else who replied.
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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: srlunatic on June 13, 2003, 08:28:36 AM

Freakzilla...

How about hitting it up hard with Black Magic????  Will allow the ball to get further down the lane...and with that stored energy should really get it to flip pretty good....

If you decide on another ball/drilling....

FLIPSIDE WICKED.......

Will go long......and then FLIP!!..(hence FLIPSIDE...lol)..

Hope this helps...


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Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: HamPster on June 13, 2003, 11:46:03 PM

I don't know if you're gonna get much help if you couldn't get a Cherry Bomb to turn the corner, I think it's a hop, skip, and a jump above even the Silver Streak Pearl.  If you want violent move off the dry, the SSP or Raging Red Fuze would be the way to go, but man, you've gotta be throwing it straight or have a swamp out there if your CB won't move, makes my brain hurt just thinking about it.
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I know Kung Fu!

I am the one, the one that will bring balance.  All the pins shall be destroyed!

Title: Re: Biggest Backend Skid/Flip Reactive???
Post by: 98custom on June 14, 2003, 07:09:41 AM

I'd have to agree with many of the above posters, try adding some surface to your CB. If that doesn't work and it's the carrydown that's the problem, you may need to look into playing more of an arc as the skid/flip reaction may not present itself on the condition that you are bowling on.
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