Post by: 1fife on December 02, 2003, 04:16:32 PM
We have oil, so has to be a big hooker.
what do you think may be the biggest?
and where you think most the hook is
a-heads b-mid lane c-backends
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Post by: ClutchClay on December 03, 2003, 10:33:17 AM
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Post by: charlest on December 03, 2003, 11:41:05 AM
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lane #1 black cherry bomb...drilled stack leverage for max length and max hook...least control. haha, that ball hooks though!
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Stacked leverage will NEVER give you maximum length. It will give you maximum ball reaction.
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Post by: ClutchClay on December 03, 2003, 11:45:06 AM
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Post by: TOON on December 03, 2003, 12:05:34 PM
Just my 2c worth.
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The one, the original, TOON!
Post by: A_P_K on December 03, 2003, 12:15:19 PM
The Inferno isn't as strong as people think it is too, with that factory finish it's a bit weak on longer oils, and stacked against the Charcoal Ex it doesn't even compare.
To be honest my Buzzsaw XL hooks just as much as the Inferno did. My Inferno was drilled 4x4, and my XL is drilled 5x4 (pin under), the major difference is the type of reaction, my XL is more sweeping where the Inferno went longer and flared more.
......Ok Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit here but the XL is only a few boards weaker than the Inferno. People in my second shift league pull these out when the lanes start to cook...
The Deuce is pretty strong, I'd have to agree with it being one of the strongest non particles. That ball rolled right off my hand...
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Post by: mumzie on December 03, 2003, 12:51:12 PM
I bought the Deuce in april to take over top spot in the arsenal (most hooking). It stayed there for a while, but is still challenged occasionally by the original danger zone.
The inferno - WOW - that ball moves.
Post by: charlest on December 03, 2003, 01:59:44 PM
Some balls will hook a ton IF AND WHEN they are used on their intended condition. Yes, the Inferno qualifies as a hook monster, drilled right and thrown right on the right condition. No, it will not hook as much as a Black Cherry Bomb, when that ball is used on its condition. The Jungle Green Predator is also a huge hooking ball, but it needs more oil than the polished resin, Inferno, to do that. I assume those are enough examples.
May I suggest that 1fife rephrase his question?
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Post by: AllStar23 on December 03, 2003, 02:05:54 PM
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Im as consistent as my ball reaction.
Post by: Strapper_Squared on December 03, 2003, 02:10:17 PM
S^2
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Post by: RandyO on December 03, 2003, 03:14:58 PM
If you're looking for major movement in the backends - try a Time Zone with some surface. Mine's drilled pin over ring and PSA indicator about 3/4" right of the thumbhole. I've thrown it with the box hi-gloss polish, dulled to 600, and a couple of steps in between. It's a strong mover on oil and carry-down with surface tweaks. Any "solid" Powerkoil 18 makes a pretty good 'oil' ball when the surface is tweaked to match the lane condition. The Time Zone with surface is stronger than the Bruiser with surface in my experience. The Monster Smash/R is also a good candidate if you want a more even arcing finish. I did not have near as much hook on oil with the Wicked BRT. Inferno is also an excellent candidate with some surface tweaks - but it's going to be an earlier hooker due to the low RG.
Post by: 1fife on December 03, 2003, 03:52:04 PM
- did state what i wanted
if you want more specifics here it is
drilled not max leverages
lets say 4.5 x 4.5
all balls 1500 dull
like i said previuosly-there is oil, not 55 gallon drum oil, but very good oil-no shortage. decent backends
hope this helps
a little FYI
jungle green is particle
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Post by: Phillip Marlowe on December 03, 2003, 04:13:46 PM
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Post by: charlest on December 03, 2003, 05:07:52 PM
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charles
- did state what i wanted
if you want more specifics here it is
drilled not max leverages
lets say 4.5 x 4.5
all balls 1500 dull
like i said previuosly-there is oil, not 55 gallon drum oil, but very good oil-no shortage. decent backends
hope this helps
Yes, it does.
From my experience, you've just hit the nail on the head.
I have just resurfaced a Black Cherry Bomb to 1500 grit smooth; it is drilled 5x4 and it hooks more than any other balls I have owned to date.
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a little FYI
jungle green is particle
yes, indeed, it is. Oops. sorry.
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Post by: scotts33 on December 03, 2003, 05:37:54 PM
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Visionary's DC Tour Warlock, slightly dulled, is even more than the Khameleon, which I think hooks a ridiculous amount for a reactive. Kept in box, DC Tour is probably the biggest hooking smooth surfaced (800 grit smooth) reactive I have seen.
Phillip I agree here.
Scott
Post by: 1fife on December 03, 2003, 05:57:35 PM
flare-i get a lot(sometimes over 8 inches)
i realize balls hook more on dry
im not interested in which ball hooks the most in dry-the balls im looking at would probably all be dead in the dry stuff-only need them in oil
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Post by: JJ on December 04, 2003, 09:23:16 AM
Post by: scotts33 on December 04, 2003, 05:22:19 PM
I don't have the Element but have a Thing and Thing Returns and am very impressed with the "soaker" covers. I believe the Element would be a good choice also.
I have a Midnight Scorcher which isn't particle but it's is somewhat different cover stock technology. This ball is great for a down and in flood but you won't cover a lot of boards with it.
Scott
Post by: charlest on December 04, 2003, 05:58:26 PM
(I'm taking the BCB down to 1000 or 1200 grit, hoping it'll burn itself up a little in the midlane and add some sense of control without losing too much hitting power.)
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Post by: Jeffrevs on December 04, 2003, 06:51:23 PM
Roto Grip Rush, strong continuous smooth and predicatble...email Roger re: one. It may fit the bill.
Others.......
V2 sanded
Charcoal Ex
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