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dogman666

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Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« on: July 10, 2009, 03:40:25 AM »
OK who has the distinction of having the biggest/smallest disparity between the house shot and PBAX?  This is my first time attempting it and I'm around 33-40 pins below.

 

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 11:49:35 AM »
last year 229 vs 191
this year 227 vs 204

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 12:04:37 PM »
Mine is 225 THS -196 PBA X so far this summer.We have over 7 guys in my league that averaged 230-241 this past season the 241 average guy is avg. 172 ,the others are between 175-186 average.

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 12:37:43 PM »
My all around average on THS in leagues, being i bowl in 3 diff houses is 210

I am at 180 right now on PBAX
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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 12:47:54 PM »
Finished at 207 this year on THS and 182 on PBAX during the fall season.

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 01:02:36 PM »
228 THS, and currently 186 in PBAX.  Nobody's averaging over 200 in our PBAX league this year, they're playing really tough on fresh oil, then open up a lot as the night goes on.  In a four game span on the Shark the other night, I went from a 164 first game to a 259 last game.    I bowled better overall in the USBC Open on that super difficult shot than I have on any of the PBAX patterns at my own house!  I still am surprised I'm scoring this poorly in the PBAX league because I don't rely on the huge area I have on a house shot -- I'm usually one of the more accurate bowlers in any league.  I just struggle with making stupid mistakes on the PBAX league all the time.  I chop the 6-10 almost every single time I shoot at it, etc.

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 01:20:08 PM »
This past season I averaged 208 in regular league. 201 in a pbax league. (5 pba patterns and usbc open pattern)

At one point in the season I was 206 in the pbax league and 204 in the reg. league.

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 01:21:47 PM »
12 pin difference, tough house for the THS easy house for the PBAX, if i bowled regular league at the house of the PBAX i'd be at least 10 pins higher in league average, so the difference realistically is more like 20.
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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 01:43:27 PM »
In the same house - 230 average for 90+ games THS, 192 average for 32 games so far in PBAX.  As with Dan's league, no one is over 200, and this league includes the last three house record holders.  I was high at 195 before last week.

Like I've said elsewhere, I find it very hard to believe that even the best exempt pros would come in and average 225+ under the exact circumstances we face (e.g. limited practice time to alter the pattern, etc.).  With all due respect to the folks at my establishment, I can't believe these conditions are what they are supposed to be.  The only pattern that played as expected was Shark.  All others were some form of the worst reverse-block pattern I've ever seen.  It's like bowling on a tightrope.  And these lanes get tougher as the night goes on, because we get some carrydown but we don't bowl enough games to get any break down.

It's very difficult to not let it start to affect your confidence.  You try so hard, but if you make the most miniscule mistake you are left with a horrible result.  Then you start making dumb mistakes because it gets in your head.  

Top it off, you go home and watch Mallott throwing 300's on TV with an area from 8 to 2 at the breakpoint.  Scorpion my a**...  

There is some solace to be had if you look at the results from some of the PBA regional tournaments.  On several occasions, the cash line is well below 200.  Go down the list and you'll see some really good bowlers with embarrasingly low scores.  So maybe these conditions really are that hard...

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 01:55:24 PM »
I was a composite 237 in my two leagues and I am currently 210 in my PBAX. I actually did much better on the shorter patterns when I prefer the longer ones.

It is a nice test of your game and will help you when you get back on the house shot. It also helped me at the Nationals.
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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 02:04:42 PM »
THS  224
PBAX 200

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 02:09:16 PM »
2009 THS Book -------> 224
Current summer PBAX -> 205

I average 220 for the 12 games on the new Cheetah, but I struggled early with the Dick Weber pattern (bad initial decisions). We'll see what Viper brings.
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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 02:36:36 PM »
THS 215
PBAX 201

After starting with a 185 on Chameleon I've fought my way up to 201. From what I've seen it always seems that at least one of the patterns has someone's number. This is the second time I've bowled in a PBAX league and I've yet to see anyone shoot good on all 5 shots yet. Anyone who can do that definitely has my respect.

Edited on 7/10/2009 2:47 PM

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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2009, 03:33:18 PM »
THS: 203
PBAx: 180
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Re: Biggest/Smallest Disparity from THS & PBAX
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 07:29:09 PM »
THS 198
PBAX 179

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