Post by: Jay on July 03, 2009, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: J_w73 on July 04, 2009, 02:18:37 AM
but with the thicker come stiffer.. I don't like this as the stiffness actually pulls the tape away from adhering to the hole..
I know ebonite and vise are thicker.. maybe brunswick and master are still thin
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Post by: Jay on July 04, 2009, 02:54:18 AM
It's hard to tell from the pics you see online because you say the Vise is thicker but they appear really thin just from the pics. The main reason I knew Ebonite was thicker is because I tried it once, and in the advertising it says double thickness.
I do agree that it would be better if it wasn't ever thick so it would stick better. If the reason it doesn't stick as well is because its stiffness won't allow it to fit the shape of the hole, I would think a smaller size tape would help.
Post by: JessN16 on July 04, 2009, 03:02:18 AM
If you're looking for something really slick, skip the black tape anyway. Vise makes a teflon tape that is the color of a Band-Aid. It's expensive as heck but it works and if you need it to come out, it comes out.
Jess
Post by: Jay on July 04, 2009, 03:48:14 AM
The purpose of me using black tape would be if I have to put white tape in the back in order to avoid putting too much in front. I've thought of that Vise tape you're talking about, it's the TA-1C or something similar. I'm not saying it's not an option, but since they're more expensive, I'd really want to make sure I get the right amount of white tape under it(so I can just add and remove tape in the front without it being too much). Thanks for bringing that up.
Out of curiosity, do you use anything besides white tape in your thumbe hole?
Post by: JessN16 on July 04, 2009, 03:54:42 AM
I've tried Vise's other specialty tapes and the two really tacky ones should be great for crankers who want to stay in the ball for a week, but I didn't like them.
I keep some Magic Carpet around just in case I ream out the hole too big when I'm working it out during a tournament and need to close up the hole without using a box full of tape. I really like MC but I can't bowl unless I squeeze just slightly, and that doesn't work with MC -- especially if I'm going hard and straight at a spare and all of a sudden hang up a little bit.
I also use some of the Ebonite tape on my thumb, the Hada-like stuff, typically in the fall and spring just as the weather begins to change. I can get the hole a little snug, then add a piece of the thumb tape and it will allow me to get out reasonably clean.
Jess
Post by: azguy on July 04, 2009, 05:57:02 AM
I cut off a couple pieces before I leave the house to bowl. Put them in my back pocket. By the time I get there, balls out etc, the tape is warm, easier to work with, more flexible. It will curve, mold whatever you wish to call it to the hole.
My thumb swells then after several frames it shrinks then about 5th frame 3d game starts to swell again so I'm taking out, putting in tape most of the night. I found that putting the tape in my back pocket it will warm a bot, easier to 'mold' to the hole.
Might work for you.
PS: If you are looking for a 'tiny sliver' of tape, try the Franken Tape from
Valentino
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Post by: NappyCuts on July 04, 2009, 07:46:29 AM
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Post by: icewall on July 04, 2009, 09:18:24 AM
master - super thin. glue is like others have said... its like after it sees the heat from your hand it bonds to your thumb hole. but for me its just WAY too thin to adjust the size of the hole.
ebonite - nice and thick. its all that I use. I prefer the 3/4 inch size.
valentinos - similar to master tape but just a tiny bit thicker, easier to apply, and doesnt get stuck in the thumb. its a good product but i tend to like thicker tape myself.
brunswick.... dont really remember what it was like. but i think it was on the thin side.
IMO ebonite and valentinos are the best in terms of how well its made.
Post by: J_w73 on July 04, 2009, 11:22:48 AM
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The Vise black is thicker and stiff....but the glue is terrible and doesnt stick.
vise recently recalled all of their black tape.. I think for this reason.. the stiffness of the tape and the lack of adhesion wouldn't allow the tape to stay stuck
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Post by: Smash49 on July 04, 2009, 12:38:45 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on July 04, 2009, 03:52:07 PM
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If your looking for black tape that is like the tape we used when Bowler's Tape first came out then buy Brunswick. I do not like the thicker stuff and the AMF - Bowler's tape now leaves a lot of residue behind. Brunswick black tape is the tape we all remember. END OF STORY! Valentino Franken tape is good stuff but very thin. It is not designed to make the hole smaller. It is more for making sure you get a clean release.
I have a lot of problem with my thumb changing sizes as well as it also being sort of a wet thumb at times. There are times my thumb hole may be a bit loose and a piece of white tape makes it on the borderline of being a wee bit tight but not exactly tight so I don't remove that piece of white tape, but simply put a piece of Franken tape over that piece of white tape and it has the exact right slickness to allow my thumb to come out of the ball without hanging up. Thus a tighter hole but still able to come out of thumb hole smoothly. The Franken tape is so thin that it doesn't tighten the hole in a case like this plus it is slicker than other black tapes. Also doesn't leave the sticky goo in the thumb hole but still adhears extremely well.
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Post by: Jay on July 04, 2009, 05:22:31 PM
Post by: nextbowler on July 04, 2009, 05:31:02 PM
to work with as it is not flexible.
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 04, 2009, 05:47:20 PM
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Brick, so you put the Franken Tape in front on top of the white? I would think it works better on the back side but if the texture from the white is going to make you hang then covering up with the smooth tape might be the way to go.
I use the black tape in the back of the hole over the white tape, never the front. For example, I always put a piece of white tape in the front of the thumb hole for gripping purposes. If the hole is still a bit loose, I put another piece of white tape in the back of the thumb hole. Now if it is on the border line of being tight, I put a piece of Franken tape over that piece of tape in the back of the hole.
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Post by: Jay on July 04, 2009, 06:01:40 PM
Brick, that makes sense. Since my thumb changes size while I bowl, I would want to put a certain amount of white in back and put the black tape over it. That way I won't have to switch out the black just to put more white under it, and also to keep the amount I use in front under control.
For example, I always like one white in front for feel, but that's not usually enough tape to fit my thumb. My thumb shrinks as I bowl, from most swollen to smallest, is probably about 2 or 3 pieces of white tape. Let's say I start most swollen and need two pieces, I would put one in front, one in back plus thin black tape. Then I'd just add tape to the front as needed, typically that might only be a piece or two, totalling three in front max using this method.
I think that'd be a good way of doing it, don't you?
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 04, 2009, 06:29:22 PM
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For example, I always like one white in front for feel, but that's not usually enough tape to fit my thumb. My thumb shrinks as I bowl, from most swollen to smallest, is probably about 2 or 3 pieces of white tape. Let's say I start most swollen and need two pieces, I would put one in front, one in back plus thin black tape. Then I'd just add tape to the front as needed, typically that might only be a piece or two, totalling three in front max using this method.
Strike, I have the same problem as you about my thumb shrinking as I bowl.
What I like about Franken Tape in addition to it's being so thin and slick and adhearing extremely well and easy to remove is some times after putting some over the white in the back of my thumb hole is that if I need to add another piece of white as time goes on, I can remove the Franken tape with my knife, add a piece of white and put the same piece of Franken Tape back in the hole and it still adhears well.
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Post by: rackattack on July 04, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
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Post by: nextbowler on July 04, 2009, 11:15:04 PM
Master and Brunswick tape.
Post by: rackattack on July 05, 2009, 05:39:43 PM
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Have you tried Scotch 33+ tape? It is more expensive than the normal 1700 tape, but has a much better adhesive.
I'll check it out.
Thanks for the tip.
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